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Hi guys,

I had the chance to ride the new kitebar-system yesterday.
I don't have to tell you how much I loved it, since I was save all the time while I could do my rotations and didn't have to manually rotate twists out of the depower lines.

First I felt uncomfortable with the littel balls at the end of the bar, but then I noticed that I even have better grip and more control with it. Since your fingers go around the bar and the lower part of your hand can push the balls. Hard to explain though. Once you have it in your hand you will know what I mean.

The system is easily and quickly installed on your harness.

2 QR make you feel comfortable whatever situation may come up.

The kiteproshop will post an info here, when their site is up with all the information you want including pics.

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here a small testreport of different safety systems tested at the safety meeting in Romo, Denmark, including the kiteproshop.com kitebar-system.

(in German only)

http://f23.parsimony.net/forum51792/messages/34604.htm


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Toby, what do the balls at the end of the bar do?
Is it possible to unhook from the chickenloop while riding? (I guess not, but I couldn't see)
Do you use Wichard snap shackles to release?


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the ball is for the depower adjuster.
since you have to adjust the backlines now, you can't use a "normal" adjuster, because it is uncomfortable riding, with the half adjuster hanging around your hands.

This system is based on a Wichard QR.

You can't unhook while riding, since then you wouldn't be save anymore.

No more handle passes and unhooked jumps, if you want to be a responsible rider.

And not many are doing loaded jumps or HP, so for them it is perfect.

And for cup riders they might hav ethe choice on day, if they have to ride with a leash, either to use a leash to do loaded jumps, but no backspin of the bar possible, or use this kind of system and do rotations with backspin but no loaded jumps.

We will see.


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Why don't you put a naish-type adjuster on the steering lines?


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because the power trim requires it to be fully pulled while riding and if you need less power, you have to open the adjuster.
Being fully pulled the part where you pull will hang around the barend and get on your nervs like hell. It has been tested though.
On the other side then you always have to adjust it both side the same lenght, which is not that easy.
With this new adjuster you have exactly 3 position and you don't need more (as to my experience and from the developer and other testers).

But wait until evening and everything will be explained in more details.

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Hello Toby,

Great news! I am glad that out of the field of early possible systems you have found one that works well. Looking forward to seeing and hearing more about it.

With regard to the competition, do you know about how many competitors will be involved?

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Rick Iossi

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Hi Rick,

I don't know exactly, but so far about 30.

Toby


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so is it hard to adjust both balls at the same time, i mean adjusting on the fly is VERY easy now, this would seem to make it quite a bit harder, needing two hands to stick the ball between the lines for the middle position... no?

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Hi Scot,

you are right, you can't adjust them at the same time, but you can depower it at the same time.
But it is no problem to do it with one hand, but the kite has to be at the wind edge or zenith.
Normally you don't need much adjusting since you choose your perfect trim before going on the water.
And this kitebar has a large depower range so the adjustment is just needed in tougher situations.

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