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 Post subject: Re: Strutless kite in development on Maui
PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 12:40 pm 
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nice!

how´s living in paradise? :-)


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 Post subject: Re: Strutless kite in development on Maui
PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 2:10 pm 
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Cool looking Kite, cool looking board... definitely fitting for the Maui lifestyle.
Is the kite just for the fun of it or are there serious advantages?


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 Post subject: Re: Strutless kite in development on Maui
PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 3:17 pm 
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:thumb: Very cool vibe,intriguing kite, no mindless hype.


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 Post subject: Re: Strutless kite in development on Maui
PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 3:45 pm 
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Enjoyed watching your clip. Also like the Jack J. in the backround. Nice relaxing change :D


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 Post subject: Re: Strutless kite in development on Maui
PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 4:28 pm 
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boardriding maui wrote:
Hi Ronnie. I agree that 3 line could be interesting. I've been spending a lot of time with all kinds of bridle configurations. Some leaning toward 3 line concepts really slow down the responsiveness. Was a surprise to me. The geometry of this design is pretty unusual, so seems like it follows some different rules. I'm still exploring and learning.

About the canopy, nothing has been added to stiffen it anywhere. Before I began testing this concept I had no idea what to expect and guessed it may not work at all. To the contrary. Many interesting potential advantages. I think the fact that it is not stiff really allows the kite to twist and respond to all input. She's super fast. I'm stoked.


Hi,
I was actually meaning that your 4 line kite bridle looked a bit like the Cabrinha IDS bridle, so was wondering if you flagged it by letting one end of the powerline run up to where the pulley is at the bottom of the front lines.
I like the simplicity of it and its good news if it works and doesn't have any serious drawbacks.

I think there is a lot yet to be investigated in kite design.
It could be that it will work as a light wind kite.

One thing I would like to see someone develop is a kite that relaunches in the lightest of wind from directly downwind by being held in the same position as it would be overhead and keeping the best angle of attack all the way up through the centre of the window.

So is the canopy aerofoil shape or flat and if aerofoil does it depower in a stable way?
I would have thought the kite would be designed to sit back in the window a bit to keep the canopy under tension.


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 Post subject: Re: Strutless kite in development on Maui
PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 5:20 pm 
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Love the concept, when will they come on the market and for how much?

Unless, you need further testers, seasons nearly starting in WesternAustralia :D

How would that kite handle in the waves?

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Rich


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 Post subject: Re: Strutless kite in development on Maui
PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 5:51 pm 
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Nice video,but it look likes this kite will wobble and lose structure in higher wind since there is no spine in the kite,at least some battens or something stiff and light weight to support the rigid structure of the airfoil.


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 Post subject: Re: Strutless kite in development on Maui
PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 7:16 pm 
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plummet wrote:
I'm trying to understand how the no strut kite works. the only thing i can come up with is mega pressure. Have you stiffened the le bladder and pump 20-30 psi into it?

ps is it a light wind only kite? the vid seems to be light wind.


???

A strutless kite dont need more (nor less) LE pressure, just the very same :thumb:

:D Peter


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 Post subject: Re: Strutless kite in development on Maui
PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 8:20 pm 
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Peter_Frank wrote:
plummet wrote:
I'm trying to understand how the no strut kite works. the only thing i can come up with is mega pressure. Have you stiffened the le bladder and pump 20-30 psi into it?

ps is it a light wind only kite? the vid seems to be light wind.


???

A strutless kite dont need more (nor less) LE pressure, just the very same :thumb:

:D Peter


explain! if that was the case then everyone would have strutless designs.


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 Post subject: Re: Strutless kite in development on Maui
PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 9:15 pm 
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Bill Hansen has been working on a similar concept in the past, it seems that the market is gradually getting ready for "out of the box" designs.
I have my doubts about "no strut" reraunch, would like to see a solution to that.


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