Coming from 4 lines last year to 5 lines this year, I think 5 lines are the way to go. The kite responses are faster because you don't get the delays caused by the bridle. When you turn the kite, the bridle has to move, for a 5 line, this doesn't happen. I've compared 5 lines with 4 lines and whilst the 4 lines may turn as fast, there is a delay before they start turning.Oldnbroken wrote:Still don't understand why a modern kite needs a loaded fifth line, with the better bladders and LE's that can be pumped hard now? The Fuse is the same kite as the Rebel, no? Magazine reviewers seem to believe they are.
And how could the crazy puke-alicious color combination choices that North has used for the last 5 years, possibly be better than basic black? Their kites remind me of snowboarding gear and clothes from the late 80's. Mountain biking went through the same color dyslexia for some time back then too.
I will admit that all the North kite models fly well though, which is the most important thing.
I guess people have different tastes, that is for sure.
The 10m is the pick of the Rebels. I had the 13/10/7 and dumped the 13m for a nugget because the 10m was so good to fly I didn't want to be on the 13.hmattar wrote:Stealing the topic, but.... How the Rebel compares with the Renegade?
I have a 13m rebel and I'm about to buy a 10 or 11m.
I got a friend selling his used 10m rebel, almost new barely used for a good price. But for a little more I can get a 11m Renegade brand new.
Oldnbroken wrote:Still don't understand why a modern kite needs a loaded fifth line, with the better bladders and LE's that can be pumped hard now? The Fuse is the same kite as the Rebel, no? Magazine reviewers seem to believe they are.
Agree entirely with mission man, I generally prefer to be riding C kites (the benefits of a 5th here have already been discussed in a previous topic) so the pulley delay drives me nuts. The pulley's also add a degree of numbness to the bar feel as well. You turn the kite but while the pulley is moving you get no real feed back as to what the kite is doing. so it's usually already pointed sideways before you can feel where it is. If you're used to this NO problem but if you're switching between direct and pulleyed kites, it gets aggrivating.MissionMan wrote: Coming from 4 lines last year to 5 lines this year, I think 5 lines are the way to go. The kite responses are faster because you don't get the delays caused by the bridle. When you turn the kite, the bridle has to move, for a 5 line, this doesn't happen. I've compared 5 lines with 4 lines and whilst the 4 lines may turn as fast, there is a delay before they start turning.
Hey Dirty84...see what you started....well...are you still deciding?Dirty84 wrote:Looking to buy a new kite, 2012 north rebel 11m or epic screamer 10m ltd any suggestions?
MissionMan wrote:The 10m is the pick of the Rebels. I had the 13/10/7 and dumped the 13m for a nugget because the 10m was so good to fly I didn't want to be on the 13.hmattar wrote:Stealing the topic, but.... How the Rebel compares with the Renegade?
I have a 13m rebel and I'm about to buy a 10 or 11m.
I got a friend selling his used 10m rebel, almost new barely used for a good price. But for a little more I can get a 11m Renegade brand new.
Can't comment on the renegade in comparison though.
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