Begin critical or criticism is not the same as brand bashing. I'd say bashing is generic statements with no understandable reason. IMO..this was not at all that
Brent4336 wrote:I've poked fun at naish for a lot of stuff but I applaud their move toward simplicity.
They've had some good, bad, and ugly just like other companies, and Im kinda glad they have dropped the sigma line. Totally true this is coming from someone who has never owned one, but there is some logic behind my opinion. They did and do work. They fly, they turn, they depower, they sold, but the bird wing design is kinda centered around the concept of a fuselage. Kites just dont have or need one so in the end its just a nice tribute to the seagull. Geo Tech? Jargon to make you geel cool. Its funny how their major premium kite for most riders now is the Park, and they now market it's horizontal seams as a complete opposite of geo tech and push it as a selling point for more imediate power!
I do not think the idea was fuselage, but rather to move the center of effort back. The it would lead to a more stable and efficient kite. If you remember the first delta kites that came out they almost all had problems that they would stall and fall forward which is a just about impossible to recover. If you center point on the kite is further back then it will not fall forwards. Oh well. I really think the last few sigma shapes had it dialed it in, but I guess the model did not sell enough or something like that. They had already gotten around the bow patent already with the SLE label on the Boxer and shockwave...which is how patents work I guess.
Personally I do not know what worked on those kites, but they worked very well for me.
Now for the labeling...I'd agree it is kind of funny, but it does put a name on things which makes it so much easier to talk about. The geo tech, well there are many brands that use straight sections on their kites LE (check just about every North kite..they did not have that before the geo tech. Their sections have gotten smaller, but are still there as far as I have seen, but I do not disagree that brands use these as selling points. SS, North, Cab, Best all do it, and I think it is also to enable us to know what we are speaking of...if we were to name it the brands would lose the control of that and the names could be...more organic so to speak.
I can see where the idea for the anti stiction windows came from. Ive had to help a buddy a few time in small shorebreak where his sigma kite ended up LE down and straight down wind getting a little wash into the canopy. Those two points held about 15 lbs of water combined totally eliminating the ability to get one tip up and the kite moving to the side. He actually has since melted small perfectly round holes into the canopy to drain those spots. I remember reading and seeing a diagram of how those pointy bits were supposed to do just the opposite and break surface tension improving relaunch! In the end. Its unneccessary in a simple arch construction. Thankfully they never let go of the torch!
Kind of thinking your buddy should review his relaunching ability. They always relaunched great for me. Pull on the center lines, and one back line, and the kite would pop out easily. On the holes, I would definitely put something in to strengthen the cloth.
Just so you dont think this is a targeted brand bashing.
not at all. I think we should be allowed to have opinions without people getting all defensive about it. It is what makes KF fun.
Still glad sigma is gone so they can push design through simplicity.
See I am ambivalent...I really loved the shit out of my 9 bolt....BUT I also do love the simpler kites. The small Rides are absolutely fantastic. The park better..I mean it is hard to complain when I cannot really see a gaping hole left in the lineup by the removal or the bolt.