Post subject: Looper's new web site + free shipping for fastest 20
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 2:32 pm
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Following some responses -
Thanks for all the feedbacks. The interest in this post as well as the amount of emails we got both indicate that for many this 'lines issue' calls for quick and easy solution.
Few asked about working in 'tough' windy conditions, and for those we can say that Looper is designed for the kiteboarding environment both in material, shape and functionality aspects. Material – stiff yet flexible plastic enhanced with glass fibers. Shape & Functionality – The opening at the top (red circle in the picture) keeps the lines in between the two arms of the rotating element (green circle), so that even in windy conditions they are wound in place, as demonstrated in the pictures here.
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The length of the rotating element (radius of rotation) is adjusted to collect the lines in a moderate walking pace without making too many rounds, and to let it rotate from itself when you unroll them (in fact it is possible to run while doing so).Dimensions were also determined to keep the Looper compact and a little smaller than a bar
Post subject: Re: Looper's new web site + free shipping for fastest 20
Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 8:23 pm
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Can you use this to do a drift launch from a boat? It is not acceptable if there are 45 twists on the line..but if not I will buy it in an instant.
Just some feedback on your site....it is really hard to place the order on your website...the guy helping you with the website..tell him to do a simple usability test. You will lose a lot of customers using this design (sorry)
Post subject: Re: Looper's new web site + free shipping for fastest 20
Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 7:26 am
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Another big thing to pack up. How long does it take to roll up your lines with it? with all the new tangle free lines this product seems unnecessary . Some schools or shops might want it. A great product for sure but limited market. Good luck though.
Hey, work on a bar with this system build in. You might have something then for sure.
Not putting your product down, just my 5c. Hope you make money.
Post subject: Re: Looper's new web site + free shipping for fastest 20
Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 3:36 pm
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It appears to me that you could use this device to real the lines in from the bar and then hook up the kite and float it downwind from a boat. Probably safe enough as a 2 person operation. You would also need to real the lines with one steering line shorter to keep the kite 90 degrees to the wind until the lines are off the device. As with most of these devices, I am sure it will work with a little thought and practice.
Post subject: Re: Looper's new web site + free shipping for fastest 20
Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 12:20 am
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Just pointing out a spelling error on your new website...
"Works for evertbody"
it's on the affiliates page.
No one has a harder time than I with tangled lines... but I can't see the looper helping... I can't see using it in windy or less than ideal conditions, it saving me time, storing it with my bar and then I need one per bar ( have two).
The video shows a lot but there's no wind... which is typical for kite gear demos though I've noticed.
Post subject: Re: Looper's new web site + free shipping for fastest 20
Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 7:17 pm
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I did three different types of boat launches yesterday just to experiement. One with lines in a bucket swimming the bar, one with lines in a bucket floating the kite from the boat, and one with the lines on the bar floating the kite out. All three were successful, but floating the kite with lines on the bar is still the most difficult. You cannot predict when one line will snag on the bar and the other 3 (4 line bar) keep going leaving the kite unpredictable in the water. (I did this in 8kt winds with a 9M kite just to be safe)
To bring this back to the topic, I would say that someone holding the looper on a boat while the kiter swims the bar out (kite stays on the boat until the lines are out) would be a safe and solid method. I think floating the kite out with the lines on the looper would still be more predictable than unwinding from the bar.Had to edit myself saying something stupid here. To float the kite out you would have to wind the lines from the center going out both directions which would probably not work well. I do still think it will work well for swimming the bar out though. My appologies to Looper for the dumb comment.
I will order one and hopefully get some experimenting done with it before the water gets to cold here.
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Post subject: Re: Looper's new web site + free shipping for fastest 20
Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 7:54 pm
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[quote="frankm1960" I can't see using it in windy or less than ideal conditions The video shows a lot but there's no wind... which is typical for kite gear demos though I've noticed.[/quote]
Me too i would prefer to see same short video with windy conditions 25-30 knots and blowing sand
When the nice girl puts down the lines on beach one a the time...they would sure fly away
They should show a video attaching lines directly to kite from gizmo one at the time..in real wind
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