i have had only 3 days on the noise 12 m here is what i think first it turns slow to me it has a lot of power but only overhead and straight down wind so i would say it is not for a beginner and it is not a good up wind kite but it is a great jumper looks great and the quality is there but not the kite for me
Joined: Mon Nov 12, 2001 1:00 am Posts: 1471 Location: Maryland USA
I have a 10M. I think it's a great kite. It is clearly meant for the surf (Duh?!) .. but works fine Bayside for me. It pulls like a truck and goes big. I somewhat dispute the lack up upwind.. I didn't have a problem whatsoever. I'm 85kg and with the winds for a 10, I use a 128 UG FLX .. the little sucker will stick an edge .. the kite has plenty of power to use that edge.
The kite is cleanly built - certainly reasonable. I don't see any squawks for its intended uses. I would give them a little more color..
For whatever reason the 12m needs work- very poor handling, slow turning and lack of depower. Everytime I use the 12m it reminds me of the early days with older kites getting yanked all over the place!
Now, the 8m and 10m are a different story. The handling is way better and turning speed is reasonable considering you're usually going to use a size down from other kites.
-They go upwind like crazy, which is great if you like wave riding with the smallest kite possible. - Unhooked wave riding is sick (no trim adjustment required) and the kite drifts well -Simple and clutter free everything. Some people may think this makes the bar look cheap, but if you're getting trashed in the waves then less is more, IMO. - Pretty stable kite- no surprises. - Great bar. Love the under bar swivel.
- Lacks instant depower. Pushing the bar out achieves a more linear depower. But the kites do have good range with an adjustment of the trim strap. BTW, I've used the 8m strapless in 25/30 knots totally depowered and it was fine. I'm 80 kg. - The general feel of the kite lacks the kind of precision I have in other kites, such as the 2012 Ocean Rodeo Razor.
Other: - pretty specific wave kite- fantastic in side shore conditions. - the kite loops without a lot of pull which depending upon the conditions (onshore vs sideshore) can be a pro or con. -above the bar trim is better
I disagree, I have the 8,6,5 and they turn plenty quick enough for the x on conditions I get in the English channel. They fly upwind which helps with on shore, have great range and the bar is brilliant. You have to initiate the bar hard and the kite turns quickly. It's designed that way to stop inadvertent turning and ditching the kite while getting rinsed. They fly farther forward in the window than my bandits which actually helps in stopping you flying away from a wave in an onshore bottom turn.
The 10 and 12 turn slower but then that's because they are equivalent to 12 and 14 and I find all kites larger than 10 start to be slower. My 8m BWS starts going in a solid 15mph on my surfboard and I've had my 5 out on 4 occasions in the last 5 weeks in gusts of upto 55mph one day.
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