Hey 14, PLEASE try the Oxygen and tell me how it compares to your Flydoor!!!14ToeSide wrote:Mr. D,
I have marked Dec 13 th on my sched and have told my clients that i will not be in the office that day. I look forward to seeing you in Cocoa in the OCEAN. I Am looking forward to trying your Infins. If the V3 can do what my Speed 3 21 does or equal my Dyno 18, I will order one on the spot.
I will bring my Flydoor XL and my Amundson custom Surf.
Kindest Regards,
14 T
Post a full honest review afterward, and make sure you bring your S3 and Dyno and fly all 3 back to back. Leave your bias at the kennel when you go, and don't pick it back up until after you post the review.14ToeSide wrote:Mr. D,
I have marked Dec 13 th on my sched and have told my clients that i will not be in the office that day. I look forward to seeing you in Cocoa in the OCEAN. I Am looking forward to trying your Infins. If the V3 can do what my Speed 3 21 does or equal my Dyno 18, I will order one on the spot.
I will bring my Flydoor XL and my Amundson custom Surf.
Kindest Regards,
14 T
Over analyze? Again no need to pretend you are some kind of a victim here...this discussion has stayed positive and as long as you don't pretend this is some kind of a personal attack for calling someone out over a claim that could potentially get people in trouble. Maybe he just said it to troll us a littleOnce again, FIXATING on the 2 knots. Just get over it and assume he said 5-6 knots. Perfectly reasonable, and who really cares? Let me restate Dimitri's claim.
Ahem... "It's a light wind kite. It can stay in the air in really really low wind. It can pull you across the water in pretty darned light wind. It's agile and fun, and it relaunches very well."
There it is, plain and simple. Please proceed in the discussion as if that was his claim.
Of course, I know that this will never happen, because people need something to nitpick, discredit, over-analyze and generally cry foul over.
I'm not a victim, because I didn't make the claim. I only care about the semantics. Just saying that people are taking the claim out of context. It seems the original quote was 2-4 knots, meaning it was blowing 2 in the lulls to 4 at the gusts, in the strictest definition. I believe this was an estimate as D put it, so figure giving the benefit of the doubt and averaging it, we get 3 knots, again just an estimate. But people aren't getting their panties in a wad over 2-4 knots, they are only honing in on the 2, like he could fly the kite and go have fun at 2 knots. It takes half a brain to deduce that it was "knot" his intention to imply that. Give it a rest.tautologies wrote:Over analyze? Again no need to pretend you are some kind of a victim here...this discussion has stayed positive and as long as you don't pretend this is some kind of a personal attack for calling someone out over a claim that could potentially get people in trouble. Maybe he just said it to troll us a littleOnce again, FIXATING on the 2 knots. Just get over it and assume he said 5-6 knots. Perfectly reasonable, and who really cares? Let me restate Dimitri's claim.
Ahem... "It's a light wind kite. It can stay in the air in really really low wind. It can pull you across the water in pretty darned light wind. It's agile and fun, and it relaunches very well."
There it is, plain and simple. Please proceed in the discussion as if that was his claim.
Of course, I know that this will never happen, because people need something to nitpick, discredit, over-analyze and generally cry foul over.
Personally I don't care, I do understand that he is talking in generalities, and if this was an ad, I'd say it was probably just marketing talk, but he kind of wrote it to a guy here which makes it a claim...I do think claims like that might end up getting Epic in trouble over the long term. Has nothing to do with nit picking, but it is kind of like that racer that was on here for about 1 week saying he could ride in 0 wind for 10 seconds...it just doesn't work. Either way. I do not care either way. I am definitely open to testing light wind abilites...but I will definitely not buy that kite.
I am still thinking we should a "DaveSails roulette"....the best competition model I have ever heard...
Well said...that is why i ride the kite i ride (19)Flight Time wrote: If I did buy a low wind kite, it would have to have a big top end to it, because I would suffer some lawn mowing if it was looking like it was going to pick up, but I don't want to switch to a different kite if it goes from 8 to 15 knots.
I have a feeling that most kites that you could fly at 7-8 knots would be freakin lit at 15.
Mr. D,
I have marked Dec 13 th on my sched and have told my clients that i will not be in the office that day. I look forward to seeing you in Cocoa in the OCEAN. I Am looking forward to trying your Infins. If the V3 can do what my Speed 3 21 does or equal my Dyno 18, I will order one on the spot.
I will bring my Flydoor XL and my Amundson custom Surf.
Kindest Regards,
14 T
Looks like there are lots of big light wind kites at your spot? Where is that? Must be lots of light wind days. I'm used to people thinking my 14m kite is big.At our beach when wind backs down real real low..the last one to come in...is the SP3 21
Then me and my friend with Dyno 18 (about same low end)
And before us...those who come in (underpowered) are the 17M Turbine,core 17,INF V2 ?,etc etc
You are correct Mr.ChristoffM,.....I'm used to people thinking my 14m kite is big.
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