I dont know enough about this kite to comment but I would be amazed if any large inflatable kite will stay in the air in a force 1, which is what is being claimed here. I think if you want to make claims like this you should back it up with the reason why it will fly, for example extremely light weight construction etc.
Dimitri M wrote:Thanks, but I have been here all the time, I just can't bare to visit your threads any more.
Remember that I'm actually an Epic owner and can tell for a fact that your claims don't correspond with reality.
I was actually even an Epic supporter, but turned because of all Bullshit and your incapacity to admit flaws in your products.
Please be kind, go back to spam your own threads and stay there.
Dear Mr McAbe,
I'm not spamming you or anyone, just telling the truth.. You did buy one kite from us almost 2 years ago, and you bought it use from our EPIC Rep in Brazil. In fact, I do have in front of me your "invoice" that says: it was for the INFINITY v1 . I still have your personal e-mails telling me and my wife how happy you were with our customer service, the kite and its performance. The only other order we got from you was for some (Epic Metal Slider Pulleys), and by mistake you were sent by our shipping department the ("O" rings), which was a mix up that we took care of immediately. This small mistake seems to have really affected you badly and since then you've been attacking Epic and me. We've only tried to help you out the best we could. Hopefully you can chill out and enjoy some of those conditions in Brazil. Once again we can't make every body happy. Now if you think the INFINITY V1 was a great light wind kite, you should try the INFINITY v2 or even the V3 prototype.
P.S. Say Hi to our Brazilian EPIC dealer/Rep Dave for me.
I met Dimitri for the first time at one of his demos not too long ago. His first question to me was, "What do you ride?" I answered and his next statement was, "That kite is shit. Take this out and tell me what you think." I took his kite out (Screamer) and unequivocally now know that he makes some far reaching claims. I am all for an individual believing in his product and wanting to promote it. However, to be dismissive about another kite manufacturer (one that has been established loooooong before his kites were even a thought) is a bit obtuse and disrespectful. At the end of the day I could care less of the kite name I am riding. I'm not a brand name kinda guy. I have very selectively chosen my kites based on what I want from my kite and the type of tricks I want to pull. The Epic Screamer I rode did not even begin to compare to my kite. The Screamer was slower turning, significantly more bar pressure (and not in a responsive way), choked out in transition (I tend to turn fast and hard) and had no where near the boost or float my kite has.
This is what I am talking about, he is so full of shit (more properly called lies) and it just keeps coming.
He doesn't have a invoice with my name for an infinity, because I didn't by it from him, I might have written something positive about their costumer service, but only to be polite and threaten fairly, I was already not happy with it before the problems with the sliders that I ordered and I had already been criticizing him of the forum for a while (he did not know who I was then and I don't know how he found out).
I have NEVER written anything to him good or bad about my opinion on the kites performance.
This is the second time he discloses my name on this forum without my consent, last time he also shared our email correspondence with a third party, hoping to get support that he didn't get, he is truly living in a reality of him own, where he decides what is good/bad, right/wrong.
Last time Toby gave him a warning and had him remove my name, but he is obviously not respecting the rules of the forum and I expect Toby to take stronger actions this time.
Dimitri M wrote:This is a great question Mr. UKSurf. For example the INFINITY V2 kite which is an amazing light wind kite has a hard time to stay up in the air bellow 5 knots. I have a video testing both kites, the V2 and V3 prototype in the air in less than 5 knots and the V2 had a hard time to stay up in the air. It actually fell twice during that test while the V3 was still up in the air in (2 to 4 knots) which is (force 1).
So to answer your question it has a lot to do with the light weight of the kite plus few other things. This is the reason why we use only 3 struts. Also the construction is an important factor but the most important thing is the perfect balance of the Biddle attachments points on the LE plus its profile and its Trailing Edge. Another reason why we don't have as many graphics on the INFINITY V1, V2, V3 is because we want to keep it as light as possible and we don't want to sacrifice the construction too much.
So all this put together gives you what we have now an amazing fun light wind kite. Why do you think I am not afraid to let people demo the V2 or V3 INFINITY or any other EPIC products!!!! Because I know their performance in light wind conditions + it has been proven so many times from people demoing them and from the videos.
Thanks for the information on that. I havent seen the Infinity since there are not many epic kites in the UK, but I have seen the Fat Lady which is also designed by Momi and that seems to be one of the best lightwind kites on the market so I am sure the Infinity is also good. My personal opinion on lightwind kitesurfing is you are better off buying a board like an Airush Sector and using your existing kite 12/13m to blast about at high speeds in 8-12 knots - it is cheaper and allows you to explore a totally different aspect of the sport which is better suited to lightwinds.