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 Post subject: Don't try this without lots of lessons.
PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 10:42 pm 
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Huge Lofty Glides by Jason Jermain and Matt Thames

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnD5NC7oXP4



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 Post subject: Re: Don't try this without lots of lessons.
PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 4:06 am 
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Curious whether any of you guys lofting off of ridges use doubled up lines to guard agains one breaking?


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 Post subject: Re: Don't try this without lots of lessons.
PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 3:44 pm 
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negative on doubling lines..
not from where I am from and the gliding I have done. Better to just replace any lines that are 6 months old (or more) or questionable.

There are some clever things that you can do to the lead lines that run from the bar and neat backups that you can do around the link points of the trimming system on the center lines, but really, when you are gliding and such, being high off the ground, you'll know by then what the gear can do.

It is pretty strong you know.

I have set up and made some very interesting tests on gear for kiting (lines, spreader bards, harness stitching, bar strength, etc) and pretty much all of it can handle the beyond hanging body weight that a kite-loop can produce. So gliding is really just your body weight under the kite (as to why redundancy (think foil bridles) and simple line checks are needed).

ill see about posting them here in a week or so. we'll see. The conclusions really came to quality gear is best, and it is all strong enough, IF people are very diligent to be checking lines and looking for FRAY! E.g., sk-75 a braided dyneema, when frayed about 50% of "pixels" running around the diameter of the cord, is considered roughly to be 60-65% weaker. So generally, replace anything that has a nick, chip, fuzzy spot, discoloration, stiff or softer feel from original, etc.

Be safe!


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 Post subject: Re: Don't try this without lots of lessons.
PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 4:53 pm 
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nice gliding!

You guys must be very brave or never had bad experiences...

From my experience I would never do that...because things like this can happen:

- harness breaks
- chickenloop breakes
- line breaks
- lines slips off the knot
- fronttube explodes

I had it all and would be too chicken to do that. Although, it looks amazing.
So important to know to have functioning gear...check lines, seams, etc before doing such things.

Be safe!!!


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 Post subject: Re: Don't try this without lots of lessons.
PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 8:51 pm 
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Looks fun and probably very peaceful but not for me. Too damn cold I prefer my water liquid and warm not FROZEN! I'll do it one of these days just say I did but then I'll run to the ski lodge for whiskey and snow bunnies :D .


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 Post subject: Re: Don't try this without lots of lessons.
PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 8:57 pm 
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so Wainman's don't have any float...he he he

Cool Video


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 Post subject: Re: Don't try this without lots of lessons.
PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 12:16 am 
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From my experience I would never do that...because things like this can happen:

- harness breaks
- chickenloop breakes
- line breaks
- lines slips off the knot
- fronttube explodes

I had it all and would be too chicken to do that. Although, it looks amazing.
So important to know to have functioning gear...check lines, seams, etc before doing such things.

Be safe!!!



dude....not wanting to be condescending here but how have you experienced all of those, line breakages yeah but the rest, seriously.

bit of care and maintenance on the gear maybe.


wicked vid, wana try this feb in france


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 Post subject: Re: Don't try this without lots of lessons.
PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 2:01 am 
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Broken leader line!
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lfenWbpkKOg


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 Post subject: Re: Don't try this without lots of lessons.
PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 6:57 am 
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First off, the music sucks!

Second, I don't see where you are coming from Toby. Those guys are not all that high off the ground and if a line did break, they would be landing in powder. Correct me if I am wrong, but you are often going much higher over the water. So, tell me why you feel so safe going big over water compared to nice soft snow???

I am surprised at the ignorance of some kiters concerning gliding. It can be incredibly dangerous if you are soaring over 50 feet above the deck. However, low level gliding as featured in this video is much tamer than kitesurfing in overhead waves, megaloops, jumping near shore, over obstacles, etc.


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