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 Post subject: Re: Who is the best High wind (30kn+) Foil Kitelooper on wat
PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 1:28 am 
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well, that video is a rather bad ad for flysurfer seeing that even the newest kite out there loops really slow compared to any other tube out there. I thought that was not the case any more.

Still wait for a time to try the kite. G


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 Post subject: Re: Who is the best High wind (30kn+) Foil Kitelooper on wat
PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 4:28 am 
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knyfe wrote:
well, that video is a rather bad ad for flysurfer seeing that even the newest kite out there loops really slow compared to any other tube out there.

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 Post subject: Re: Who is the best High wind (30kn+) Foil Kitelooper on wat
PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 9:20 am 
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knyfe wrote:
well, that video is a rather bad ad for flysurfer seeing that even the newest kite out there loops really slow compared to any other tube out there. I thought that was not the case any more.

Still wait for a time to try the kite. G


you can compare that 8m Speed4 to a 10m Lei, agreed, still not as fast as a 10 C, but as fast as a bow I think.

Very good hangtime it would seem.


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 Post subject: Re: Who is the best High wind (30kn+) Foil Kitelooper on wat
PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 2:03 pm 
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we all know that C, bow, delta, hybrid , turn at the same speed.......

when i see a switch/hydra truning, can t say it s faster than a flysurfer.


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 Post subject: Re: Who is the best High wind (30kn+) Foil Kitelooper on wat
PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 2:45 pm 
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I have never seen a mega loop performed on a foil. People have forgotten what a mega loop really is. Watch this video filmed 08 from 2:30 to the end. I have never seen the height and distance traveled downwind matched. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaWM6lY70YI


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 Post subject: Re: Who is the best High wind (30kn+) Foil Kitelooper on wat
PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 7:43 pm 
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knyfe wrote:
well, that video is a rather bad ad for flysurfer seeing that even the newest kite out there loops really slow compared to any other tube out there. I thought that was not the case any more.

Still wait for a time to try the kite. G


Have you ever looped a foil? if you want to loop like a man. then loop a foil and experience POWER. Silly little C kite loops are gutless and pussy by comparison.


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 Post subject: Re: Who is the best High wind (30kn+) Foil Kitelooper on wat
PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 11:19 pm 
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plummet wrote:
Have you ever looped a foil? if you want to loop like a man. then loop a foil and experience POWER. Silly little C kite loops are gutless and pussy by comparison.


The foils I owned were Mosquito 5.5 & 9 / Speedair 12 / Psycho1 12 / Psycho2 19. Only the Psycho 12 could be looped and I did that only 2-3 times and gave up and waited for something different to loop. I agree to that - the radius was Huge and with that the pull.

The difference is that I still would like to try the Speed4s as I am not big into looping anyway and like hangtime a lot. Looping is just not a solid point of the kite as I see it. Hangtime for sure - hell yeah ...

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 Post subject: Re: Who is the best High wind (30kn+) Foil Kitelooper on wat
PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 12:51 am 
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voodoospirit wrote:
we all know that C, bow, delta, hybrid , turn at the same speed.......

when i see a switch/hydra truning, can t say it s faster than a flysurfer.


Um no they do not. Turn speed and radius are all so different. C's for example turn in a radius and generate power in the turn. Delta's pivot turn or on a radius just depends on the kite. Who still makes a bow besides Cabrinha? Bows turn really slow and I don't like them.

Sorry but foils just don't do it for me.


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 Post subject: Re: Who is the best High wind (30kn+) Foil Kitelooper on wat
PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 7:36 am 
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Do you mean on Tuesdays or on Sundays when it's a full moon?

getting mighty specific in your question there, mate....


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 Post subject: Re: Who is the best High wind (30kn+) Foil Kitelooper on wat
PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 9:39 am 
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jens wrote:
I have never seen a mega loop performed on a foil. People have forgotten what a mega loop really is. Watch this video filmed 08 from 2:30 to the end. I have never seen the height and distance traveled downwind matched. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaWM6lY70YI


If you are saying that those loops are the only bona fide loops ever done then you are right, I have never seen a mega loop on a foil.

But. Hadlow says anything about 10m is a megaloop - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aC-f6XfI ... age#t=455s


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