Johnny,Instead of misinterpreting my posts as well as the writings of multiple authorities in the wind energy field, I suggest YOU contact them, and explain your concerns quoting the aritcles you have read. I found these researchers to be very willing and open to discuss their area of research and more importantly calm a somewhat paranoid kiteboarder about a windfarm that is popping up that they're not "stealing our wind"
There are clearly some very large changes in fluid dynamics far more then a "bunch of selective air particals made visible and then mixed around by rotating blades". I assumed that since you did not think it was indicative of wake turbulence, you were suggesting it was laminar. Was not sure how you could have one without the other.The photo does not indicate large scale turbulence or pressure disruption outside of the immediate wind farm area just a bunch of selective air particals made visible and then mixed around by rotating blades. Take a bunch of smoke machines and spin em around in circles in front of a few low speed fans and the visual effect would be somewhat similar
If you are responding to my question with reference to doming I would like to point out I said 6 km not 6 miles... which is significantly less distance. So is that close enough to have an effect?Kitedude wrote:a Wind Farm 6 miles out won't have an effect on the beach. you can spin it all you like but it simply won't.
Johnny Rotten wrote: I found these researchers to be very willing and open to discuss their area of research and more importantly calm a somewhat paranoid kiteboarder about a windfarm that is popping up that they're not "stealing our wind"
,SSK wrote:
Johnny,
If this is how I am coming across then I obviously am not choosing my words correctly
Sadly this isn't the kiteboarding community this is majority of the population in general As a data analyst I'm sure you've come across a situation where some anectotal photo or cutesy video showing 1 anomaly countering hundreds of thousands of data points and every study ever performed is displayed and this is what people remember and choose to believe.SSK wrote: I am an engineer and data analyst and one thing I have learned from this is that a lot of kiteboarders are right brained.
Laughingman wrote:This is an absolutely fascinating discussion.
SSK or anyone else who may have an opinion or facts to share, Now that I see even my home spot is slated for a large wind farm approximately 6km away from shore I am going to try to put a positive spin on this.
We often suffer from a condition called decoupling (we call it doming). When the water is cold and the wind is warm it has a tendency to separate from the water surface this works both ways warm water and and cold air seems to have the same effect. So it can be windy as hell slightly in land and the buoy about 6km out shows 20 kts but on the beach it is calm, its like the wind forms a dome over the beach. Do you think having a large wind farm 6kms out can have a positive effect by forcing the wind to mix and therefore not decouple?
Probably wishful thinking but wouldn't that be great?
I think he is responding to your thread title and to your original post, which is a link to the Outer Banks Sentinel article, which places the Kitty Hawk NC site at 6 miles offshore and the Wilmington NC location at 7-13 miles offshore.Laughingman wrote:If you are responding to my question with reference to doming I would like to point out I said 6 km not 6 miles... which is significantly less distance. So is that close enough to have an effect?Kitedude wrote:a Wind Farm 6 miles out won't have an effect on the beach. You can spin it all you like, but it simply won't.
Laughingman wrote:If you are responding to my question with reference to doming I would like to point out I said 6 km not 6 miles... which is significantly less distance. So is that close enough to have an effect?Kitedude wrote:a Wind Farm 6 miles out won't have an effect on the beach. you can spin it all you like but it simply won't.
think the point he was trying to make about the picture was something along the lines of "look, you can see the water vapour particles getting mixed up really well, so all the lumps and bumps in the wind will get mixed out too". laminar flow would be terrible in this case! you'd have 'holes' in the wind. good job it all get's mixed up! thank god for turbulent mixing.
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