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Re: Epic Oxygen vs Spleene Session

Postby Manuel V » Mon Dec 31, 2012 1:10 am

flaps1111 wrote:
Oldnbroken wrote:The Oxygen tires my back leg out more than a regular sized twintip will, because the width at 147cm.



I think that this is the problem with 135 cm you can get the nacesary rocker or sufficient length to get comfort.
That's why the industry is so wrong when they disign a lightwind board just to fit in the golf bag.


If we compare the area of this two size boards,
135 x 47 = 6345 cm2 Epic Oxigen
145 x 44 = 6380 cm2 Crazyfly Cruiser pro
we have basically the same area.
The longer board (less width) would give you less back leg burn?
But the fun would be less with the longer board?

My weight is 73 Kg and I'm looking for a LW TT.
But I don't want a LW TT that just work for go up and down.
So I'm a little afraid of "longer" LW TT (for example 150x48).

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Re: Epic Oxygen vs Spleene Session

Postby L0KI » Sun Jan 13, 2013 7:58 am

Yes, the Cruiser Pro feels so completely different, not nearly as fun.
My Spleene Session went upwind as well and was a great board, but the Oxygen is more fun to ride, for sure.
The wider width is a little more pressure for your back leg, but Oxygen is lighter more carvy and much more fun to jump.
If you are going to ride a twintip in lightwind, you might as well ride one that you can jump with, the Oxygen does that.
Otherwise, most folks use a directional for the fun factor that they provide, on light days.

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Re: Epic Oxygen vs Spleene Session

Postby Manuel V » Sun Jan 13, 2013 2:43 pm

Oldmbriken,

Thanks for your feedback on 145x44 vs 135x47.

I would like to hear comments about someone that
Already try the oxygen and the 135x46 cruiser pro.
There sizes are very similar.

From this two boards,
I read that the Oxygen is very flat rocker
I understand that the cruiser pro 135x46 have a little more rocker
And medium flex helps the board to ride good in choppy conditions.
I don't know the flex of the Oxygen maybe is also medium flex.

Can you comment your experience with the oxygen in choppy conditions?
I' m a little afraid that this size of these boards (135x46 or 135x47) sink easy
at crusing speed in choppy conditions.

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Re: Epic Oxygen vs Spleene Session

Postby L0KI » Sun Jan 13, 2013 6:32 pm

The rocker line is flat, like all the good lightwind boards.
The flex and lightness of the Oxygen allows it to behave well in chop, and flex enough to hold an edge when it does get powered up.
But lightwind kiting is normally less choppy than heavy wind conditions.
Never had any issues with it sinking in chop.
To me, the Oxygen feels as close to a regular sized board, as any lightwind board I have ever ridden, and that says a lot about a lightwind board.

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Re: Epic Oxygen vs Spleene Session

Postby juniorjack » Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:25 pm

I agree flex is a huge factor in lightwind boards.
I tried 2006 (really stiff), owned 2007 (still pretty stiff) and now have a 2008 spleene session for a few years.
Compared to the 2007 the 2008 is thinner and has much more flex making carving waves more fun and improves pop for jumping, also less pressure on back leg needed when the windforce increases.
Didn't try any never lightwind boards.

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Re: Epic Oxygen vs Spleene Session

Postby L0KI » Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:31 pm

My Session 141 was a 2008, I believe.
A soft green-ish type of graphic all over it.
The newer ones have gotten progressively thinner and more flexy.
But the shape has stayed the same.
I have found the Oxygen being 135 long is a big factor, and the tip shape allows for a smoother carve and transitions, and the shorter length allows for better load and release off the water when jumping.
The shorter length also helps in landings, but the width makes it a bit more slippery than my normal smaller higher wind twintips.

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Re: Epic Oxygen vs Spleene Session

Postby mattthieu » Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:26 pm

dont forget one thing, i'ts also a nice board for beginner !
as it's short and lively like a normal TT but wider so a beginner can get going with ease !!!

i tried one, with 14m and chopy water, 15 knots average, and liked it a lot, A LOT !!!!! feells so flexy !

my usual board is a rogue wave so, maybe it's that i'm used to stiff boards ! but, the ride of that thing is amazing !

one bad point : i wanted to buy one and, i looked at 5 units at the shop, all 5 had defects : air bubles, air bubles inside the board around the inserts, one had the rail delaminating.

maybe those boards where all 5 from a bad batch ! cant tell !

IF they do a V2 off that oxygene, thats solid build, i'm in !

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Re: Epic Oxygen vs Spleene Session

Postby Manuel V » Mon Jan 21, 2013 2:12 am

I think there is already a Oxygen V2 available.

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Re: Epic Oxygen vs Spleene Session

Postby L0KI » Mon Jan 21, 2013 3:32 am

I have an Epic Droid 135X41 board that Dimitri tried to see if he could destroy.
He had it for 5 months and beat the crap out of it, landed tricks on and off many docks and logs and even on pavement, rode it up and down the beach on the sand.. landed hard from his massive jumps a million times and just beat the thing mercilessly.
I bought it from him for very little money, when I was between twintips and had nothing.
He had thrown some clear epoxy on it to repair the biggest hit it took.
It is not taking on water, it is not delaminating, and it rides just like a new one.....if you keep your eyes closed and don't LOOK at it.
My point is, they are very durable in their construction, so I would not worry about an Epic board falling apart on you.

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Re: Epic Oxygen vs Spleene Session

Postby Black Jack » Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:34 am

I'm currently demoing the Epic Oxygen board as a prospective replacement for my current 2011 Cabrinha Plasma light wind board.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8F64XWLYCzA&noredirect=1

I've tested both boards together a number of times now and found the Plasma kills the Oxygen as far as bottom end is concerned. This was a bit of a surprise for me as I expected similar performance following the many raving reviews i've read on this and other forums.
So for me this is not what I would call a light wind board but I guess it really depends on your plane of reference and expectations.

This being said, the Oxygen board is a much nicer board to ride. It's also a lot lighter to hold, has great foot straps and comes with a set of large and small fins. The board is certainly a lot more fun to ride than the Plasma and has a far greater top end. For me this would make a great medium wind board.

Will I buy this board? I'm still deciding. I'm testing an OD Mako King next week so will see how this goes first before making my decision.

Hope this helps!


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