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Learn a kiteloop

Postby RedStar » Tue Mar 05, 2013 1:45 pm

I can do small railes, back loops and front loops and now I want to learn kiteloop. I have been looping the kite a lot while driving to get the feel what kite does while looping. So far never looped the kite when jumping. What is the best way to start learning?

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Re: Learn a kiteloop

Postby Toby » Tue Mar 05, 2013 2:00 pm

Do a normal jump, and just before landing you loop it.
This will give you the first feeling without destroying you.

And then you can do it earlier and earlier until you do it on the peak of the jump.

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Re: Learn a kiteloop

Postby RedStar » Tue Mar 05, 2013 2:24 pm

And I assume you mean downloop (pulling with back hand)? Should I pull the bar really hard to make kite loop fast or pull slowly. From what i have read the kite should be at 12 when i start the loop.

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Re: Learn a kiteloop

Postby BWD » Tue Mar 05, 2013 3:55 pm

Down loop = pull front hand
It's called down loop because kite goes down before it goes up.
Kite loop = pull back hand
Kite goes up and back before it goes down.
Pull the bar HARD to loop. Injuries happen when kite only does half a loop so it accelerates you but then let's you slam down hard!
So take one hand off the bar or put both hands on same side of bar to pull hard!
Make sure you know what you are going to do before you do it!

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Re: Learn a kiteloop

Postby edt » Tue Mar 05, 2013 4:20 pm

bro decent kiteloop tutorials are far and few between, most of us have to learn it on our own the hard way

Here is the best tutorial I have seen so far, in french here's my translation:

"go out lit 9 meters in 25 knots, once you start you must commit, and pull hard. After the kite loops push the bar out so the kite catches you and land with the board pointed downwind. if you have to bail, land on your butt, save your knees."

I dont think my translation is that good if you have a better one, post.



the old thread I found this in is "kitelooping for dummies"

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Re: Learn a kiteloop

Postby Vinny » Tue Mar 05, 2013 4:55 pm

Go out lit in 25 knts on a 9m :nono: to practice kiteloops?

Im hoping its your translation that is wrong :lol:

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Re: Learn a kiteloop

Postby edt » Tue Mar 05, 2013 5:45 pm

Vinny wrote:Go out lit in 25 knts on a 9m :nono: to practice kiteloops? Im hoping its your translation that is wrong :lol:



seems ok to me. Original poster is already doing raleys, backroll front rolls, surface kiteloops. Can't megaloop without wind

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Re: Learn a kiteloop

Postby BWD » Tue Mar 05, 2013 5:56 pm

Can't megaloop without wind

but if you megaloop without practicing technique,
what do you deserve?
Darwin award?
or just a broken neck?
Looping might teach you the difference between 20 knots and 25 knots,
in a way you never considered.

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Re: Learn a kiteloop

Postby edt » Tue Mar 05, 2013 5:58 pm

BWD wrote:
Can't megaloop without wind

but if you megaloop without practicing technique,
what do you deserve?
Darwin award?
or just a broken neck?
Looping might teach you the difference between 20 knots and 25 knots,
in a way you never considered.


Maybe he should just not megaloop at all, and stick to the low kiteloops.

I mean it depends what his skill level is, it sure sounds like he is ready for the higher speed kiteloop from how he described his current skill set.

A few fun things to do with the low kiteloop: Raley kiteloop gives you a bit extra yank in low wind conditions, darkslide or jesus walk are also fun, and you can do a kiteloop backroll in low wind conditions.
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Re: Learn a kiteloop

Postby cglazier » Tue Mar 05, 2013 6:18 pm

Doing your first kiteloop with 9m in 25 knots would be very extreme. :roll:

You can learn to kiteloop with any size kite, just be sure that you are lightly powered (not fully powered).

First try to downloop (pull hard with your front hand during a transition). It helps if you start while riding toeside so that you carve around to heelside. Be sure to start with the kite high so you don't run out of sky.

Then try regular kiteloops by pulling hard with your backhand. Do not jump at first. Aim downwind with your board and as the kite loses power pull very hard with your backhand. The kite will loop giving you a surge of power and will leave your lines twisted. Now you can loop the kite the other way by pulling hard with your other hand. Since you are headed downwind the power surges are easy to handle.

Now that you are downlooping and kitelooping you can add the jump. Do a small jump and when you are at maximum height pull hard with your back hand. Be sure to begin with your kite high in the sky. You will feel a surge of power pulling you downwind so aim your board that direction to land. Do not chicken out halfway or you will slam your kite into the water. I recommend you do the fishing pole grip. (Take your front hand off the bar and put it next to your back hand so you are holding your bar like a fishing pole. The fishing pole grip commits you.)

If you are comfortable doing backrolls, do one and at the peak height pull hard on your backhand to loop the kite. The combination backroll/kiteloop is not difficult. You come out of it with no twists in your lines. You can do this move in light wind with very little height.

A favorite of mine is the front roll/downloop transition, which also ends up with not twists in your lines.

Always remember three things:
1. Start with your kite high
2. Pull hard on one side of the bar to loop the kite and commit
3. Aim your board downwind for your landing.

As you progress you can try more powered conditions and higher jumps. Have fun.

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