No there isn't!

you are welcome to show me !

And remember to make it look stylish!

would a 50ft board off be OK?

I really have to stop reading this thread. No matter how good the new Fuse and/or Dyno are going to be there is no way I can spend $2500 on a new lightwind kite when my 2011 18m (which cost $950 new ) is still flying just fine

... yeah, but wouldn't kite with the power of a 2011 18m that turned better be a good thing?

It's alot of money for sure and I don't wanna buy a kite that I 'hope' is better even though its is designed by a legend. I wasn't too happy with the 2012 and don't want to make an expensive mistake!

Robbie

I would say the 18 Fuse will be closer to the 2011 18 Dyno based on what I was told. I still have a 2011 18M Dyno. THE LTD is much more Efficient in All ways than he 2011 18M. I say this because the LTD has much more versatility than the 2011 18M.

I have not flown 18 Fuse.

versatility? that baby just needs to jump high and long. nothing else

impressive height. but at that height you will use a small kite...and style is to hold the position and use the time in the air...I doubt you can do that in 50 ft...

I can't

And do you do technical rotations at that height?

I can't

OK, so a 50ft foot out 360 - Do you consider 10m too small?

When you Jump the LTD Toby you WILL get high and long.