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 Post subject: Re: Sliders and pulleys vs Rings - Safety Tip
PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:50 pm 
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Oldnbroken wrote:
Parts may be a lot tougher to come by for Kami and Ceasar knowing where you guys are located.
For me, I can buy Amsteel grey line by the foot at West Marine Supply or a Sailboat shop.
It is far Cheaper and Safer to use the Sliders and replace the short line that the Slider runs on.
It is not the same stuff that the rest of the bridle is made of, and is such an easy swap when there is any wear.
So I don't pay for new bridles.
I just buy twenty feet of grey line and keep it right in the kite bag.
Can do the fix sitting right on the tailgate of my truck.


Lucky you OnB! That is not the case here where I live (as you know). :(

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 Post subject: Re: Sliders and pulleys vs Rings - Safety Tip
PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:09 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Sliders and pulleys vs Rings - Safety Tip
PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:35 pm 
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There's actually a sailing supplies shop in Osaka that has Amsteel etc by the METER :P :lol: and does internet-order, COD shopping - takes about 3 days. Otherwise, it's a 4-hour round trip costing $50 on the motorway :( They have a good selection... not comprehensive, but good enough.


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 Post subject: Re: Sliders and pulleys vs Rings - Safety Tip
PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:57 pm 
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Still, the value of using a certain kite should not be determined on the price of a cheap and easily obtainable bridle line, whether ordered through Dimitri ahead of time or ordered from a boat supply company ahead of time. Heck, even ordering some sliders AND a replacement bridle is not that big a deal, and chances are the original bridle will be just fine for as long as you have the kite. I have noted no wearing of the bridles on my 2G screamer 12 and 3G Screamer 14.


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 Post subject: Re: Sliders and pulleys vs Rings - Safety Tip
PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 2:11 pm 
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Flight Time wrote:
Still, the value of using a certain kite should not be determined on the price of a cheap and easily obtainable bridle line, whether ordered through Dimitri ahead of time or ordered from a boat supply company ahead of time. Heck, even ordering some sliders AND a replacement bridle is not that big a deal, and chances are the original bridle will be just fine for as long as you have the kite. I have noted no wearing of the bridles on my 2G screamer 12 and 3G Screamer 14.


And you have kited those kites how many times?
Using pullies or ...?


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 Post subject: Re: Sliders and pulleys vs Rings - Safety Tip
PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 2:41 pm 
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Caesar wrote:
Bradn wrote:
the infinity kites definitely need the sliders, flying in 2-4kn gives the lines heaps of wear!

on a serious note, why are they so expensive?


Hi,

My advice (and I bought these sliders)- buy proper pullies or you will still end up with heavy wearing of the bridles with these sliders.

Cheers
Caesar 8)


Dude, there's no such thing as "proper pulleys". Even the most robust and supper-sealed (and rather huge) ones will end up jammed up after a while at the expense of being a potential line-dangler. Hell, even in ideal conditions with a pulley that isn't jammed the line will wear - it's just plain physics as in "don't piss against the wind". You're lucky to live at a location where you can kite everyday, which also means that you have to maintain your gear a lot more often then others. Everybody know that the piece of a bridle that goes through pulleys needs to be replaced every so often. Everybody know that if you maintain that piece of a bridle it will last longer that if you don't. So please stop blaming a gear manufacturer for your own laziness. Or just buy kites without pulleys or sliders altogether.


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 Post subject: Re: Sliders and pulleys vs Rings - Safety Tip
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alexeyga wrote:
So please stop blaming a gear manufacturer for your own laziness. Or just buy kites without pulleys or sliders altogether.


Who is blaming a gear manufacturer here? Stop taking these strange pills you are on...


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 Post subject: Re: Sliders and pulleys vs Rings - Safety Tip
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In case no one noticed, I was joking about the wear, the joke was 2-4kn flying....


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 Post subject: Re: Sliders and pulleys vs Rings - Safety Tip
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 Post subject: Re: Sliders and pulleys vs Rings - Safety Tip
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I personally tend towards Pulleys. The sliders are good too but i just have more faith in the pulleys.


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