DirkGently wrote:C kite with a bridle involving pulleys isn't a true C kite.
Or, pray tell, which bridled "C kites" did you try?
We've had this "true or pure C kite" discussion for years now, so I won't argue for too long about it.
"Pure C kites" don't have bridles ..or five lines ..or pulleys ..or non square tips...which leaves only the Fuel.
All the five line C kites are using the fifth line to solve their problem, a fifth line is a bridle, especially when it is split into two or three attachment points.
Bridled C kites appeal to a larger audience because they have that larger range and relaunch easier/faster/better and the pulley does extend the range.
Most kites have very short bridles in the last 3 or 4 years and do not have wingtip wrap issues.
The kites I flew were an Ozone C4 11M and a Blade Prime 11M, I own one and a buddy owns the other.
My friend prefers the C4 and I the Prime, so personal taste is always a factor.
The C4 does turn a little faster but to no real advantage in my hands, the Prime turns plenty fast.
I like the more powerful Prime canopy for bottom end and the pulley allows for more top end depower.
Both felt nice and direct, no less direct than a Rebel for sure.
The Rebel feels like an SLE kite, and that is a shape thing, the "non bridled" line connections do not make it feel more direct, I own the 8M 2011.
I think C kites feel the way they do because of their canopy shape, as opposed to the SLE/delta/bow shapes, I don't think it's a bridle thing I think it is a shape thing.
I prefer a bridle and four lines, which knocks out the five line C's.
Still can't fall in love with a five line kite, I'm trying but it's not happening.
Anybody want a good deal on a 2011 Rebel 8m?
Anyway, glad to hear that Mutiny is thriving, I've heard their kites are very, very good.