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 Post subject: Re: Oil you zippers
PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 7:38 pm 
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VINEGAR!

Tell you what, if you try our product and are not 100% satisfy, we'll send your money back.

Order now and receive an free packet of ketchup for smearing on those tough to dip areas.

Call now, offer ends soon!


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 Post subject: Re: Oil you zippers
PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 7:50 pm 
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jrfiol wrote:
VINEGAR!

Tell you what, if you try our product and are not 100% satisfy, we'll send your money back.

Order now and receive an free packet of ketchup for smearing on those tough to dip areas.

Call now, offer ends soon!


Yup - has soaked it in vinegar, so will see tomorrow :naughty:

:D Peter


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 Post subject: Re: Oil you zippers
PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:04 pm 
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Peter_Frank wrote:
jrfiol wrote:
VINEGAR!

Tell you what, if you try our product and are not 100% satisfy, we'll send your money back.

Order now and receive an free packet of ketchup for smearing on those tough to dip areas.

Call now, offer ends soon!


Yup - has soaked it in vinegar, so will see tomorrow :naughty:

:D Peter



Cool, I have never photographed before and after, please do so!

Oh, give it a couple of days.

Regards,


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 Post subject: Re: Oil you zippers
PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:48 pm 
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Its easy to damage the actual zipper, which often isn't corroded at all.

These require just cutting the old runner off, clean the area and clip on a new one. I dont know how long they last in a marine environment, but these people seem to have the answer - if they will last on a board bag.



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 Post subject: Re: Oil you zippers
PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:33 pm 
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I can not see ANY difference, with vinegar :-?

Soaked the zipper fully in 5% vinegar, twice, and waited almost 3 days.

Before:

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Still stuck and no visible changes in the "salt" corrosion :roll:
A much sharper photo, but no difference in the zipper at all...
The zipper to the left works fully, no issues at all - but it is also the zipper used normally and often.

8) Peter


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 Post subject: Re: Oil you zippers
PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 12:04 am 
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i think you'll find that
nitric acid will dissolve copper and it's salts.
while sodium hydroxide will dissolve aluminum and its salts.

no idea what else they will eat while waiting for your zip to clean up


.... pick your poison

-bill


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 Post subject: Re: Oil you zippers
PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 12:42 am 
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I dont understand.

I use this methid for the same thing before. Let me think


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 Post subject: Re: Oil you zippers
PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 12:49 am 
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What do you mean twice? Did the vinegar dry up?

Did ur bag soak up the vinegar? Sorry, cause vinegar dissolves that white accumulation.

Kinda embarrased now,


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 Post subject: Re: Oil you zippers
PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 2:39 am 
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I might be wrong but I am pretty sure that those slides are aluminum slides. So that is not salt or rust (rust is iron oxide only) but aluminum oxide corrosion. Soaking in a citric acid like lemon juice should work, but the ones pictured are so far gone I doubt anything would work. If vinegar did not work you probably will not be much more successful with citric acid, but if you are running experiments give it a try. I also believe they make a naval jelly for aluminum.


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 Post subject: Re: Oil you zippers
PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 4:18 am 
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Peter is right.
Some zippers are so corroded that there is almost nothing left of the runner. No coke or vinegar can fix that.
My current Naish and North kite bags have no problems presumably because they are using a better quality zipper. My old F One and Flysurfer kitebag zippers completely disolved into nothing (these companies may have fixed this in more recent years).

If your zipper is only lightly corroded, try the solutions above and spray them with silicon to protect them. But ultimately it depends on the manufacturer to use salt resistant zipper materials.

:wink: CG


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