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Re: Kook Proof Line Connection - are we there yet?

Postby BWD » Sun May 05, 2013 6:40 pm

Or choose to live unencumbered by such excess personal baggage.

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Re: Kook Proof Line Connection - are we there yet?

Postby fokiten » Sun May 05, 2013 6:56 pm

TheJoe wrote:The problem is not how we connect lines to our kites, but 1. how people fail to double check their connections 2. understand fully how a kite and it's bar work.

I learned on Wainmans and they have no kook proof line connections just color coded lines. I never launched a kite with my lines wrong. Not saying I never connected them with a back line wrapped around a front line just never launched.

Now I'm on Slingshot Fuels and they are kook proof B and color coded. Same goes for the Wainmans. Never launched my kite with the lines messed up.

Here is the secrete I take the 30 seconds it takes to make sure my lines are connected correctly. I do it every time I launch. I even check my lines when I go back out after a break. Why? because anything can happen and it only takes a second.

I'm not against a standardized connection I'm more indifferent to it. What I'm for is people being taught better and actually learning about their gear that fundamentally can put their life and others on and off the water in danger.


This method works for me...no wrap arounds

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so yeah...

anytime you are faced with a kook proof situation, you know you've one foot in the cowpie...

Those who stand on the sand with both feet, and have made up thier own lines...

Might try, marking the fronts and putting them on straight away---then unwrap the bar and lay it down, face down like the kite,
step on it and pick up the steering lines---

(lay the bar down where you'll stand to launch)

Clear them by pulling them through the front lines---then just hook them up...

Can you install a back line on the front this way??? no

Can you have a back line through the front two???

no...

so there ya go
fuck a bunch of kook type well intentioned help...

Learn to do it yourself, that way you know
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Re: Kook Proof Line Connection - are we there yet?

Postby edt » Sun May 05, 2013 11:23 pm

without the kook proof connectors I would routinely screw up my lines. I also leave my lights on in my car because it doesn't have a darn warning beeper to remind me to turn them off.

if you hate kookproof so much there are pigtails you can buy. It's not that hard.

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Re: Kook Proof Line Connection - are we there yet?

Postby fokiten » Mon May 06, 2013 12:53 am

edt wrote:without the kook proof connectors I would routinely screw up my lines. I also leave my lights on in my car because it doesn't have a darn warning beeper to remind me to turn them off.

if you hate kookproof so much there are pigtails you can buy. It's not that hard.


hope I'm not whipping a dead line ( knot joke )

but edit, how or why would you fuck it up...?

perhaps take look at my system and see if it is not only faster , but quite effective at getting them on right, right away...

what's your current method?
thanks
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Re: Kook Proof Line Connection - are we there yet?

Postby edt » Mon May 06, 2013 1:14 am

I'm fine if I don't get bothered, but sometimes I have to catch a kite or hold someone's beer or something in the middle of laying it out and then sometimes people are talking to me while I'm walking back to the setup and I'm still talking to them while I finish up, so I forget I really should go back to the beginning because what if the wind picked up a line when I wasn't watching, and bam there you go.

When I leave my car lights on it's always the same reason, there's a storm in the middle of the day I turn on the lights and when I get home the storm is done, so I don't notice the lights are still on.

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Re: Kook Proof Line Connection - are we there yet?

Postby fokiten » Mon May 06, 2013 1:21 am

edt wrote:I'm fine if I don't get bothered, but sometimes I have to catch a kite or hold someone's beer or something in the middle of laying it out and then sometimes people are talking to me while I'm walking back to the setup and I'm still talking to them while I finish up, so I forget I really should go back to the beginning because what if the wind picked up a line when I wasn't watching, and bam there you go.


understandable....

note that putting the fronts on a sanded kite gives you something to pull against when clearing the rears...read: no more 'laying them all out'

I'm telling ya ....

not too shabby as systems go.....

ah...beer

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Re: Kook Proof Line Connection - are we there yet?

Postby edt » Mon May 06, 2013 1:54 am

i'll try your system, but no promises I wont screw it up. Lemma know if you have ideas on the car lights thing, it's embarrassing asking strangers for a jump.

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Re: Kook Proof Line Connection - are we there yet?

Postby fokiten » Mon May 06, 2013 2:09 am

edt wrote:i'll try your system, but no promises I wont screw it up. Lemma know if you have ideas on the car lights thing, it's embarrassing asking strangers for a jump.


I recommend the automatic headlights that manage themselves...

best thing since keyless entry.....


it helps if you wind your bar up carefully at sessions end...then you can usually just walk up the rears without any need to fuss next outing....

and....if some pulling seems in order, just keep an eye on things , slight pull and a step etc.

q line of course is the stiffest, and like a stiffy is always good to have at your beck and call

go baby...
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Re: Kook Proof Line Connection - are we there yet?

Postby edt » Mon May 06, 2013 2:12 am

you realize you just recommended I get a kook proof car :-)

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Re: Kook Proof Line Connection - are we there yet?

Postby fokiten » Mon May 06, 2013 2:15 am

edt wrote:you realize you just recommended I get a kook proof car :-)



like rigging it's not about the features in the end but how you park it...

skill comes cars come and go....

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