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 Post subject: Request to travelling kiters
PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2013 1:52 am 
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1. Please ask what the rules are at any beach you visit.

Should you ignore #1 and not know what the rules are, please do not argue with the local kiters when they inform you what you are doing is wrong. If they say "Do not do XXX," please do not reply "I am doing XXX for YYY" or "I am doing XXX because of ZZZ," or worse "I have kited all over the world and have always done XXX and will continue to do so, here and everywhere else."

The rules you failed to inquire about probably clearly indicate you should not do XXX.


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 Post subject: Re: Request to travelling kiters
PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2013 2:04 am 
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Well said dude!

I would be happy if even only half of the tourist Kiters coming to Fuerte would do that.

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 Post subject: Re: Request to travelling kiters
PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2013 1:26 pm 
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You just gotta love the idiots that when they are doing something stupid and you talk to them about it they tell you, that it is okay for them to do those things because they are an "instructor" and know what they are doing.


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 Post subject: Re: Request to travelling kiters
PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2013 4:47 am 
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Just like work place accidents which are done by highly experienced staff due to over confidence. Begineers are mostly sure footed.


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 Post subject: Re: Request to travelling kiters
PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2013 6:37 am 
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Not directly related to this thread at all but

Education

"I am riding a wave on the way in , so unless you are in danger in some way regardless of port/starboard, please can you keep clear so I can get on and hack this wave to death - then you can have a go too.."

"Cutting in on me to get the best set wave a second time in a session will take you off my christmas card list"

Riders pimping their fave spots/wave for fame/sponsorship/whatever - I guess people will learn the effects of taking the rough with the smooth.


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 Post subject: Re: Request to travelling kiters
PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 1:20 am 
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+1 This should be placed as an "Announcement" at the top of the forum.

ALL traveling kiters need to do this. It's not a "localism" thing - in spots where access is threatened or there is any kind of access issues, sketchy launch or conditions, it's the people that kite there every day that know what the issues-dangers-rules are.

I'm a "regular" at a pretty popular waveriding spot. The thing is, all the guys have figured out a way that works best for everyone. Everyone that's a regular follows the same right-of-way rules, and everyone works together & gets along. It's only when someone comes in who is used to a different set of rules, that there are problems.

It's actually an advantage to visiting kiters to follow the rules set at my spot because if they have right-of-way, no one is going to get on their wave, period.

I know it's just a case of different rules at different spots, different things people are used to, that causes collisions or problems. Be humble, ask what the "rules" are wherever you go & help preserve access & improve safety for everyone :D

JD


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 Post subject: Re: Request to travelling kiters
PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 10:58 pm 
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great post. worth a bump


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 Post subject: Re: Request to travelling kiters
PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 11:29 pm 
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Is there anywhere in the world where the rider on the wave does not have right of way of one coming out (with exception of dangerous circumstance)?


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 Post subject: Re: Request to travelling kiters
PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 12:57 am 
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Do local "rules" override International Right of Way (COLREGs) ?


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 Post subject: Re: Request to travelling kiters
PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 1:26 am 
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we wrote:
Do local "rules" override International Right of Way (COLREGs) ?


Yes. A common problem in the surf on the west coast of the U.S. is that visitors believe the, "kiter heading out through the surf" has right of way. Regulars at spots simply wait a few seconds for the kiter on the wave to finish their ride, then proceed back out. It works for vistors as well, if they're riding the wave they have right of way. It's fair to everyone.

A kiter on the wave, at a waveriding spot where there is a clearly defined break (meaning a point or a reef with a peeling wave) has right of way nearly always, except if a person is down on the inside.


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