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Michelks
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Re: Fuse 2013 losing pressure

Postby Michelks » Fri May 03, 2013 2:59 am

Puetz wrote:
Michelks wrote:JOB DONE!!
Since I knew the area the holes were (close to deflate valve) , I tied with a rope the two sides of the bladder, one just before the valve and the other one meter ahead, I pumped the bladder using the deflate , and started to check with the spray soap , no bubbles(may be to much water) but I could feel the air going out when i approached my face , then with the back of my hand I found the hole, when I tried with the palm of the hand i couldn't feel it, the back is much more sensitive. The second one was easy. Tested and approved.
Thank you guys, I wouldn't have done that without help and advices.
Cheers
Michel


... cool as man, good result.

What do you think of the kite, any more opinions?? :D



I hope this sunday It will blow 8 to 14 knots, then i give you my opinions.

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Re: Fuse 2013 losing pressure

Postby Puetz » Fri May 03, 2013 5:43 am

Michelks wrote:
Puetz wrote:
Michelks wrote:JOB DONE!!
Since I knew the area the holes were (close to deflate valve) , I tied with a rope the two sides of the bladder, one just before the valve and the other one meter ahead, I pumped the bladder using the deflate , and started to check with the spray soap , no bubbles(may be to much water) but I could feel the air going out when i approached my face , then with the back of my hand I found the hole, when I tried with the palm of the hand i couldn't feel it, the back is much more sensitive. The second one was easy. Tested and approved.
Thank you guys, I wouldn't have done that without help and advices.
Cheers
Michel


... cool as man, good result.

What do you think of the kite, any more opinions?? :D



I hope this sunday It will blow 8 to 14 knots, then i give you my opinions.


... sweet! :thumb:

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Re: Fuse 2013 losing pressure

Postby Puetz » Wed May 08, 2013 4:33 am

Michelks wrote:
Puetz wrote:
Michelks wrote:JOB DONE!!
Since I knew the area the holes were (close to deflate valve) , I tied with a rope the two sides of the bladder, one just before the valve and the other one meter ahead, I pumped the bladder using the deflate , and started to check with the spray soap , no bubbles(may be to much water) but I could feel the air going out when i approached my face , then with the back of my hand I found the hole, when I tried with the palm of the hand i couldn't feel it, the back is much more sensitive. The second one was easy. Tested and approved.
Thank you guys, I wouldn't have done that without help and advices.
Cheers
Michel


... cool as man, good result.

What do you think of the kite, any more opinions?? :D



I hope this sunday It will blow 8 to 14 knots, then i give you my opinions.


... so, had a chance yet? What do you reckon? :)

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Re: Fuse 2013 losing pressure

Postby Miltsface » Wed May 08, 2013 9:08 pm

I see that you already located the holes, but here's a tip for the future, or anyone else with the same problem. It's usually pretty hard to exactly locate a small hole once you pull the bladder. I start with the soap trick to find the hole with the bladder still in the kite. Then I take a pretty thick needle and poke right through the LE to make an even bigger hole in the same spot. When you pull the bladder, its now pretty easy to find the bigger hole. As much as your brain will be screaming "NOOooo!!!!!" when you hold the needle up, you're gonna put a patch on it anyway, so it doesn't really matter if you now have a bigger hole alongside your original hole.

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Re: Fuse 2013 losing pressure

Postby Puetz » Wed May 08, 2013 11:42 pm

Miltsface wrote:I see that you already located the holes, but here's a tip for the future, or anyone else with the same problem. It's usually pretty hard to exactly locate a small hole once you pull the bladder. I start with the soap trick to find the hole with the bladder still in the kite. Then I take a pretty thick needle and poke right through the LE to make an even bigger hole in the same spot. When you pull the bladder, its now pretty easy to find the bigger hole. As much as your brain will be screaming "NOOooo!!!!!" when you hold the needle up, you're gonna put a patch on it anyway, so it doesn't really matter if you now have a bigger hole alongside your original hole.


... sounds crazy, it might just work! But ...

I found, especially if the kite is fairly new or rather, hardly used, the bubbles can travel along the LE or strut and present in a different spot. If you poke a hole in, you may have just made a new hole. Some times the Dacron material is air tight too.

A little example, I once had a valve peal off my LE bladder one pump which fed air to the strut. I pumped up the kite and noticed one strut was down. Hmmmm. I attempted to open the clamp on the hose but no air came through. I studied it closely and eventually I pulled the hose off and no air was lost, just an open valve. Then while lifting the kite over I noticed in the sun light the hole in the bladder where should have been a valve, roughly 180 degrees around the other side with only the LE dacron holding the air in. The kite sat there for 30 min while I showed everyone to laugh at. I was amazed the kite didn't deflate :o .

cheers for now,

Robbie :D

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Re: Fuse 2013 losing pressure

Postby Michelks » Thu May 09, 2013 1:04 am

Hi Robie,
I didmt have wind above 7 knots yet, may be this friday i'll have a chace.
The only thing i notice is that the. Kite cant stay in the air when 5 knots, and with 7 it's not worth going to the water.
Cheers

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Re: Fuse 2013 losing pressure

Postby Puetz » Thu May 09, 2013 5:48 am

Michelks wrote:Hi Robie,
I didmt have wind above 7 knots yet, may be this friday i'll have a chace.
The only thing i notice is that the. Kite cant stay in the air when 5 knots, and with 7 it's not worth going to the water.
Cheers


...mmmm, not really good to hear, my old 2011 18m Dyno is flying at 5 knots, well at least it can hold itself in the air at that speed. Cheers :D

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Re: Fuse 2013 losing pressure

Postby Michelks » Sat May 11, 2013 8:42 pm

Robie, before you ask me...no wind again this weekend.,...30 days with an 18 and couldn't try it...i give up.

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Re: Fuse 2013 losing pressure

Postby Puetz » Tue May 21, 2013 11:55 pm

Michelks wrote:Robie, before you ask me...no wind again this weekend.,...30 days with an 18 and couldn't try it...i give up.


... sorry Michelks, I'm asking again, anymore tests???? Sounds like you live our neck of the woods the way your wind is going!!! :D

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Re: Fuse 2013 losing pressure

Postby Michelks » Fri May 24, 2013 5:46 pm

Puetz wrote:
Michelks wrote:Robie, before you ask me...no wind again this weekend.,...30 days with an 18 and couldn't try it...i give up.


... sorry Michelks, I'm asking again, anymore tests???? Sounds like you live our neck of the woods the way your wind is going!!! :D


Robie, nothing yet. I haven´t been to the beach for the last 15 days( I live 120 km from the beach), and the forecast for this weekend is poor again.
http://www.windguru.cz/pt/index.php?sc=8114&sty=m_menu
You are not forgoten , as soon as i have news i´ll post.
cheers


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