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 Post subject: Re: Flysurfer kites reviewed by a seasoned LEI rider.
PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 5:14 pm 
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When guys says back and forth it usually means they have read that somewhere else or somone told them that or if they have tried it they have only done that...
Mostly has to do with not knowing.
I've do more than back and forth all the time in super light...
In this wind no other kites are even going upwind.

Basically it's keeping the same power in lighter winds...
Use your body and some pop and power from the kite for some good fun.
So many of us are doing it here... Just sold another Flyrace (Go Anywhere Freeride Board) to a very good... experienced kiter that I look forward to seeing him rock it this summer.

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2:27 Darkside Slide
2:32 Jump
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The Magic Continues... Lightwind Summer coming again as usual.... for us.
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Kamikuza wrote:
alexrider wrote:
because they turn so slow, don't allow you to do much more than lawn mowing back and forth and a bit of wakestyle stuff when the wind picks up a bit.

Depends on your level though, eh? If all you can do is ride back'n'forth and some basic freestyle, then you'll be happy with the sessions the big foils save :)


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 Post subject: Re: Flysurfer kites reviewed by a seasoned LEI rider.
PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2013 4:42 am 
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RE: Flysurfer Turning Speed...
Speed 3 12m is about the power of a 14-15m sle or so Inflatable to keep in mind...
Rare to find a turning speed video so here I have one....

Other kites in this vid are 16m 17m green (Background) and a customer on 19m...
Turning speed is also a style of riding not everyone turns a kite fast or wants to.
So it's a Choice...

But sure as kites get bigger (of all kinds) they turn slow but the alternative is to use your board and body for pop and power. As well the other alternative is to ride under powered riding back and forth on a smaller kite or in many cases we see here heading down wind and then walking up and putting the kite in the bag.



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 Post subject: Re: Flysurfer kites reviewed by a seasoned LEI rider.
PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 12:37 am 
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In 10 MPH I can mow the lawn, edge, trim the bushes and Carve the Lawn upwind. What's not fun about that?

And I weigh 245 PIES!

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 Post subject: Re: Flysurfer kites reviewed by a seasoned LEI rider.
PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 12:57 am 
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Get a 21m and Flyrace.... then try again and maybe be Surprised.... even at 245....
I'm 150 and on 10-12m in 10mph with power... jumping and tricks, you'd be on 21m....
Fin Acts as +5m or so Kite Size

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14ToeSide wrote:
In 10 MPH I can mow the lawn, edge, trim the bushes and Carve the Lawn upwind. What's not fun about that?

And I weigh 245 PIES!

:desperado: :desperado: :happybirthday: :happybirthday:


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 Post subject: Re: Flysurfer kites reviewed by a seasoned LEI rider.
PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 1:53 am 
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Get a 21m and Flyrace.... then try again and maybe be Surprised.... even at 245....
I'm 150 and on 10-12m in 10mph with power... jumping and tricks, you'd be on 21m....
Fin Acts as +5m or so Kite Size

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14ToeSide wrote:
In 10 MPH I can mow the lawn, edge, trim the bushes and Carve the Lawn upwind. What's not fun about that?

And I weigh 245 PIES!

:desperado: :desperado: :happybirthday: :happybirthday:


14 TOE and Supa ride the ocean with drift whitewater waves current you name it..we got it :wink:
Don't go in flat kiddy pool :nono:
At beach we have an expert 150 pies rider on 12mSP3 and in 10 mph he goes nowhere
Zero tricks zero air zero anything
Toronto magic water and wind perhaps

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 Post subject: Re: Flysurfer kites reviewed by a seasoned LEI rider.
PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 2:02 am 
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I've had three days this week, of great light wind sessions on my S3 21 and Flydoor XL. I just discovered how much fun double and triple rotations are! If I can get upwind just a bit, I can jump enough to play silly buggers - it's not mowing the lawn.

I don't think the lake wind was too magical. And I got your 245 beat ;)

Oh and last night, I wish I had a video camera - kite was flying in ZERO wind :D the flags on the beach were totally limp, no flutter in the canopy of parked kite but the Flysurfer was sitting at zenith quite happily :D the claims I could make with that :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Flysurfer kites reviewed by a seasoned LEI rider.
PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 3:10 am 
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Cool.... ah the things to experience....
Once of my dreamy shots.... and this is a huge lake...
Pictures and Video are better than words... But I sure can imaging what you are saying...

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 Post subject: Re: Flysurfer kites reviewed by a seasoned LEI rider.
PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 4:15 am 
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+245 Kami! Wa Whoooo!!!

I could see how the Fly race Big Fin could give lots of Lift. Maybe more than a Quad Surf?

How much more low end than a Monster Door or the Flydoor XL?


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 Post subject: Re: Flysurfer kites reviewed by a seasoned LEI rider.
PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 5:25 am 
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Lots more than a Monster Door....
Get this I can lots more upwind on my 12m and Flyrace when a Customer is on a Monster Door and 21m...
About same weight..!
Works great as it is but we do jumps and tricks and so on... with it... ride it hard...
I make a custom set up for using it to jump with and tricks for customers...

More than a Quad fin Surfboard... but I think much more fun all round... Retract fin when windy... blast upwind with it down!

Oh and the Fin is super efficient since it's an asymmetrical foil shape. Flatter on one side...

Better tan XL too Look at the Fin! And cool thing it's retractable...!
Take a bit of getting used to... not for pure beginners... Customers get on it the following year though....

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Guys are writing back and forth myth on Bigboards and
I'm going Up and Down!... Not just writing... Doing!!




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+245 Kami! Wa Whoooo!!!

I could see how the Fly race Big Fin could give lots of Lift. Maybe more than a Quad Surf?

How much more low end than a Monster Door or the Flydoor XL?


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 Post subject: Re: Flysurfer kites reviewed by a seasoned LEI rider.
PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 6:01 am 
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Myself and Some Customers addicted to fins....
I even put one in my 145...
With this Speed 4 8m I'm kiting upwind of guys on 12-15m kites.... with surfboards...
Most compact powerful combo in the world!

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