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 Post subject: Re: Switch Kites: Master any Terrain with the Element2
PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 10:44 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Switch Kites: Master any Terrain with the Element2
PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 2:49 am 
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blu wrote:
Can those kites be flown on Cabrinha bar ?
I'm thinking of getting new Element

I've flown my element v1 on the 2013 cab bar but it really doesnt feel right, the higher Y split on the cab bar makes it feel off but on the regular switch bar feels perfect. I cant comment on the v2 elements with that bar though. I wouldnt hesitate getting the new elements holy shit they look good! Perfect refinements from the v1.


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 Post subject: Re: Switch Kites: Master any Terrain with the Element2
PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:49 am 
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Thanks Twitch!
Higher 'Y' split is not optimal but less of a problem on the Element2 due to direct fixed bridle and revised structure. Turning is quick, but not quite as quick as a low 'Y' split. :thumb:
Twitch wrote:
blu wrote:
Can those kites be flown on Cabrinha bar ?
I'm thinking of getting new Element

I've flown my element v1 on the 2013 cab bar but it really doesnt feel right, the higher Y split on the cab bar makes it feel off but on the regular switch bar feels perfect. I cant comment on the v2 elements with that bar though. I wouldnt hesitate getting the new elements holy shit they look good! Perfect refinements from the v1.


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 Post subject: Re: Switch Kites: Master any Terrain with the Element2
PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 5:30 pm 
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How well does the Element sit on a wing tip when tether launched?


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 Post subject: Re: Switch Kites: Master any Terrain with the Element2
PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 5:41 pm 
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Does the direct fixed bridle require a single front line safety release system on the bar?
When is the new bar due for release, and will it be single line release?


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 Post subject: Re: Switch Kites: Master any Terrain with the Element2
PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 6:22 pm 
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POACHER wrote:
...I've wondered what your golden setup for equipment must be?................then I realized I don't really give a rip, so forget I asked.
cheer up bro..........kiting is fun!...POACHER

it is sure is fun, but not with the switch kites.
did you ever wonder why one kite can meet all your requirements and the other in the same conditions can not? that is mostly because of the different kites wing profile.

and my golden setup is definitely not the switch kite. they should advertize their product as the kites for petite riders and flat waters.

so i'm fine now, good luck to you with switch


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 Post subject: Re: Switch Kites: Master any Terrain with the Element2
PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 7:18 pm 
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Just curious eree, which Switch kite are you referring to? I'm flying Nitro 2's and thus far, I'm quite pleased with them. I'm impressed with the build quality, flying characteristics and versatility. So out of morbid curiosity what model or characteristics didn't you like?

Not to start a shameless plug, but I have to give them credit for listening to their customer base on design input and feedback. Bill and Felix are always accessible to answer questions or work with you. I think it's pretty cool to be involved.

Anyway......no ill will. To each their own.


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 Post subject: Re: Switch Kites: Master any Terrain with the Element2
PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 8:18 pm 
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Twitch wrote:
blu wrote:
Can those kites be flown on Cabrinha bar ?
I'm thinking of getting new Element

I've flown my element v1 on the 2013 cab bar but it really doesnt feel right, the higher Y split on the cab bar makes it feel off but on the regular switch bar feels perfect. I cant comment on the v2 elements with that bar though. I wouldnt hesitate getting the new elements holy shit they look good! Perfect refinements from the v1.

thanks for the info
I will wait for the new bar from Switch, to see if I like it as much as new Cab bar.
will safety release on Cab bar be compatible with Element 2 and Nitro 2 16m ?


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 Post subject: Re: Switch Kites: Master any Terrain with the Element2
PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 8:26 pm 
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eree wrote:
POACHER wrote:
...I've wondered what your golden setup for equipment must be?................then I realized I don't really give a rip, so forget I asked.
cheer up bro..........kiting is fun!...POACHER

it is sure is fun, but not with the switch kites.
did you ever wonder why one kite can meet all your requirements and the other in the same conditions can not? that is mostly because of the different kites wing profile.

and my golden setup is definitely not the switch kite. they should advertize their product as the kites for petite riders and flat waters.

so i'm fine now, good luck to you with switch


@ eree

Life can be soooooooo good, if you see the positive side of things,instead of concentrating on the negative parts.
The sun shines for everybody no matter what, but it seems you have thunder, lightning and rain clouds constantly above your head :cool2:

Think positive dare to SWITCH :rollgrin: ( couldn't resist the last one )
Come on eree be a man.... :wink: :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: Switch Kites: Master any Terrain with the Element2
PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 9:05 pm 
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tswierkocki wrote:
How well does the Element sit on a wing tip when tether launched?

Tether launch is no problem. The wide wing tip and 'C' shape helps to kept the kite stable even in gusty conditions.
Oldnbroken wrote:
Does the direct fixed bridle require a single front line safety release system on the bar?
When is the new bar due for release, and will it be single line release?

No, the fixed bridle does not require a single line release.
We are waiting for new components to be manufactured and tested. The new bar will feature three release options: double front line , single front line or 5th line option.


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