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 Post subject: Flysurfer cronix
PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 2:53 pm 
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Flysurfer cronix
support trailing edge kite?
http://www.flysurfer.com/wp-content/uploads/downloads/2013/06/line_plan_flysurfer_cronix_6-12.pdf
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And pump can be like that
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And action :)

http://vimeo.com/69308014



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 Post subject: Re: Flysurfer cronix
PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:36 pm 
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Bridled LE and Trailing edge? Interesting.


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 Post subject: Re: Flysurfer cronix
PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:34 pm 
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I think that I saw TE bridle on 1st GENETRIX kite (Hydra?), I think that they dont use it anymore...

Also, I doubt that it changes profile so actively as described (kite too narrow - not so flat, too fixed bridle), to be effective, but maybe I'm wrong, would love to see actual video (not some animation...).

Maybe possible upgrade so the "flaps" may be more effective - make it like jet flaps from your foils (with holes in canopy).

But that TE bridle makes a change in relaunching for sure - that HI AR kite actually may even need it to get effective relaunch.

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 Post subject: Re: Flysurfer cronix
PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 6:06 pm 
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zloyejik wrote:
Flysurfer cronix
support trailing edge kite?
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and we already can see slacking parts of the LE bridles and wrinkled canopy...

what is the price tag for this flysurfer, 4000€ ?


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 Post subject: Re: Flysurfer cronix
PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:09 pm 
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I give you points for consistency eree. :cool2:


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 Post subject: Re: Flysurfer cronix
PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:14 pm 
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From 1399 € to 1699 € did I see on the homepage: http://www.flysurfer.com/produkte/kites/cronix/


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 Post subject: Re: Flysurfer cronix
PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:49 pm 
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It is interesting, some time wind is right this summer I'm planning to try a limited 2 or 3 point TE bridle for relaunch improvement to some vintage kites, who knows, it could work.... and the cost would be zero!


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 Post subject: Re: Flysurfer cronix
PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 9:11 pm 
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Regarding the Interesting rear bridle:

Not like Genetrix at all. Totally different function.
If my understanding is Correct this rear bridle will give a little more low end power, but will also increase induced drag which will translate too less upwind performance and slower forward speed as well as sitting further back in the wind window. To me this is the same as "Coning" which creates a highly tensioned trailing edge and causes a flap affect and traps more air and pressure under the canopy. This give low end grunt, but compromises efficiency. However, it looks like you can tune the rear bridle too minimize or eliminate it. Would be nice if flysurfer would give us a better understanding of it's effects on performance of the kite like upwind and position of kite in wind window. To me Coning is to much of a compromise in performance for the added lowend power. Would be better to have kite like the Switch Nitro2 which uses anti coning rigidity to trailing edge to avoid this induced drag and makes the kite very efficient and scream upwind while generating massive apparent wind and thus has great lowend power as well as high end efficiency and speed.

So Flysurfer give us more info please:)


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 Post subject: Re: Flysurfer cronix
PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 11:31 pm 
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It doesn't look like a big breakthrough since Bow Kites and to be superior by just adding T.E. support :lol:
And how its going to catch up without the high aspect ratio with the Cabrinha Velocity in all attributes just wondering :?


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 Post subject: Re: Flysurfer cronix
PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 4:27 am 
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Guess we will know when we Fly it like all the other Bullwash and Hype and Marketing. Most things look good on paper. It might be the Best Blow up yet!


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