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Re: Max wind a quadcopter can be flown in? Yes, to shoot rid

Postby RichardM » Fri Jul 05, 2013 8:29 pm

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It would seem like the Professional Russian has the quadcopter best suited for shooting kiters.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNPJMk2fgJU

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Re: Max wind a quadcopter can be flown in? Yes, to shoot rid

Postby alexrider » Tue Jul 09, 2013 3:58 am

RichardM wrote:.
It would seem like the Professional Russian has the quadcopter best suited for shooting kiters.



:lol: :lol: :lol:
I wondered how long till some guy would take my question literally! :jump: :jump: :jump:

PS: I came across that video during my searches, but it didn't occur to me to post it here. Good you did, RichardM. I don't mind that sort of topic hijacking...

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Re: Max wind a quadcopter can be flown in? Yes, to shoot rid

Postby alexrider » Tue Jul 09, 2013 4:11 am

@ryanroberts1983. This has got to be the "ideal" setup.Very impressive. But don't tell me your octocopter is carrying all 5 cams all at once? :o
For my non-professional needs it's a definite overkill for I want to do. Won't be using better (and heavier) than the GoPro, which fully satisfies my needs as it is attached to the board or the kite.
I would upgrade my kit (DJI Phantom) only if the wind becomes the limitation. I'll be able to tell in 2 weeks. I'm confident I will be eventually be able to get Android based FPV with it.
Look what you can get (admittedly on a windless day) with a DJI Pahntom, GoPro HD and Zenmuse H3-2D Gimbal. Unthinkable value and technology only a couple of years ago.



http://www.dji-innovations.com/product/zenmuse-h3-2d-gimbal/
http://www.prweb.com/releases/2013/6/prweb10842788.htm (Integrated iOS app for camera control and FPV !)

I feel like a pimp now. :-?

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http://vimeo.com/m/67617687

Carbon Core 1000 Octocopter:

DJI Wookong M Flight Controller
6x 5800 6s 30c Zippy Batteries
8x 420kv Turnigy Multistar Motors
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8x 14×6 XOAR Balanced / Matched Props
PhotoshipOne / Dual Battery Mount Kit
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PhotoshipOne 3X Pro v2 Gimbal
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PhotoshipOne 3X Pro Vibration Dampening Plate
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Spektrum AR6000 Receiver
2x Castle Creations UBEC (FPV / HFG)
2x 2100mah E-Flight Batteries
5.85ghz FPV Feed
FreeFly HDMI -> Composite Converter
Tiny Stratos Camera Controller
HoverFly 3 Axis Gimbal Controller
DJI S800 Skids

Ground:
Rechargeable 5.8ghz FPV Monitor
Secraft FPV TX Tray
7″ LCD FPV Monitor (framing)
6 Lipo Parallel Charging Station

Flight / Weight Capabilities:
Sony NEX
Canon 7D
Canon C500
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Re: Max wind a quadcopter can be flown in? Yes, to shoot rid

Postby hmattar » Wed Jul 10, 2013 2:55 am

All that money to put turnigy motors and esc?


ryanroberts1983 wrote:Prepare to spend 15-20k on anything worth a shit for filming. Here us a build video of my 950 hex and my octo 1k specs.

http://vimeo.com/m/67617687

Carbon Core 1000 Octocopter:

DJI Wookong M Flight Controller
6x 5800 6s 30c Zippy Batteries
8x 420kv Turnigy Multistar Motors
8x 45 AMP Turnigy Multistar ESC’s
8x 14×6 XOAR Balanced / Matched Props
PhotoshipOne / Dual Battery Mount Kit
Spektrum DX7s Radio
Spektrum AR6000 Receiver
Spektrum Telemetry Unit (Pilot)

Gimbal:
PhotoshipOne 3X Pro v2 Gimbal
PhotoshipOne 3X Pro / Carbon Core Mounting Plate
PhotoshipOne 3X Pro Vibration Dampening Plate
3x Savox 360* Modified Titanium 1258TG Servos
Spektrum AR6000 Receiver
2x Castle Creations UBEC (FPV / HFG)
2x 2100mah E-Flight Batteries
5.85ghz FPV Feed
FreeFly HDMI -> Composite Converter
Tiny Stratos Camera Controller
HoverFly 3 Axis Gimbal Controller
DJI S800 Skids

Ground:
Rechargeable 5.8ghz FPV Monitor
Secraft FPV TX Tray
7″ LCD FPV Monitor (framing)
6 Lipo Parallel Charging Station

Flight / Weight Capabilities:
Sony NEX
Canon 7D
Canon C500
RED Epic / Scarlet
Sony FS 700

Unloaded Weight: 11.60 lbs
Weight With Batteries: 15.3 lbs
Red Epic With Batteries: 22.4 lbs

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Re: Max wind a quadcopter can be flown in? Yes, to shoot rid

Postby AndrewJMcGee » Wed Jul 10, 2013 12:55 pm

Discovery channel uses Gopro footage. Its high quality footage....The only things that is bad is vibrations make footage terrible. Solve vibration problems, and you'll have great useable footage. As for flying the Dji phantom in the wind. Thats beyond me. It should be able to hold position. Doesn't the dji use the naza global tracking? Return to home feature? It should be able to hold a positon fairly well. 20 knots is going to be the limit.. only a guess.

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Re: Max wind a quadcopter can be flown in? Yes, to shoot rid

Postby AndrewJMcGee » Wed Jul 10, 2013 4:04 pm

http://www.horizonhobby.com/products/35 ... BLH7880#t2

Heres a new product from Blade!! No videos yet but looks whos jumped on the wagon. Prob should be good footage for under 500!!

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Re: Max wind a quadcopter can be flown in? Yes, to shoot rid

Postby alexrider » Wed Jul 10, 2013 5:02 pm

AndrewJMcGee wrote:http://www.horizonhobby.com/products/35 ... BLH7880#t2

Heres a new product from Blade!! No videos yet but looks whos jumped on the wagon. Prob should be good footage for under 500!!

Phantom copycat? This is the proof the concept is good. Looks like it's got the same specs. I believe what makes a good multicopter is all in the controller. Hope Blade's is as good as Naza.
Under 500? Not sure; it looks like it's the price without the transmitter. :!:

These flying objects are like flying tripods, logical extensions of GoPros (and copycats); I wouldn't be surprised to see them all over the kitespots (but not only) within a year or two... and more regulations to follow.

20 knots indeed seems a maximum in laminar conditions for the Fantom. If speed is related to size (only my assumption), it looks like there is a tradeoff between max wind capability and (travel) portability.

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Re: Max wind a quadcopter can handle? Yes, to shoot riders!

Postby hmattar » Wed Jul 10, 2013 10:18 pm

When i'm flying I don't find 25 knots to be a problem as long as it's steady.
The gusts are a pain when recording a movie.

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Re: Max wind a quadcopter can handle? Yes, to shoot riders!

Postby alexrider » Thu Jul 11, 2013 12:31 am

hmattar wrote:When i'm flying I don't find 25 knots to be a problem as long as it's steady.
The gusts are a pain when recording a movie.

How much is you copter "heeling" in 25 knots?
Unless I am prepared to accept the skewed movie as it is, or post process it (straightening it up), a gimbal such as the Zenmuse H3-2D seems imperative. Unfortunately, it doubles the price of the Phantom kit :cry: .

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Re: Max wind a quadcopter can handle? Yes, to shoot riders!

Postby hmattar » Thu Jul 11, 2013 2:23 am

Alex, get a cheaper gimbal. will work very well:
http://www.infinity-hobby.com/main/prod ... ts_id=9876
http://www.infinity-hobby.com/main/prod ... ts_id=9866



alexrider wrote:
hmattar wrote:When i'm flying I don't find 25 knots to be a problem as long as it's steady.
The gusts are a pain when recording a movie.

How much is you copter "heeling" in 25 knots?
Unless I am prepared to accept the skewed movie as it is, or post process it (straightening it up), a gimbal such as the Zenmuse H3-2D seems imperative. Unfortunately, it doubles the price of the Phantom kit :cry: .


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