I can appreciate your interests in backing up the kite Felix. No doubt, its a great kite. When I first looked into getting the kite I actually spoke with you and informed you of my riding style and that I rode Rebels and I wanted to replace my 12m. You gave me the hands down recommendation on the 12m Nitro 2 and said it had many of the same characteristics (maybe you said specs) of the Rebel. I found that to be very far from what I expected. I did try it in lighter winds as well. About 12 knots one morning. I still had much of the same problem. Perhaps I just dont weigh enough and I couldnt keep a strong edge when sending it for big air. It seemed to want to pull me off my edge well before I was ready. Got some nice airs off of kickers and waves though.felixp wrote:flybykite wrote:I bought the 12m Nitro 2 when it first came out and agree with the construction being awesome. I sold it after about 5 sessions because it pulled too hard. I weigh 155 and in 18 knots I could fly upwind but after a jump or any trick where I needed to land downwind, the kite would not stop pulling to allow me to regain my edge. Many times I needed to stick my ass in the water to stop the downwind pull. The wind range is very narrow for these kites in my opinion and I love to fly powered but this one was too much for me. I since bought 2 new Ozone Edges 9 & 11m and couldn't be happier. A much better kite all round in performance but not built like the nitro 2. Anyhow I don't crash often so I'm sure the build quality of Ozone will do just fine.
Great honest reviews on here.
However at around 155 pounds in 18 knots I personally would not be riding a 12m nitro2 (twin tip)
The kite has solid power.
I would have been on a 10 m kite with out any question. Lot more efficiency would have come out of it this way. (twin tip)
Food for thought I have 230 pound riders on 12m nitros riding waves in 15 knots on a surfboard at my local spot.
Every one has different tastes but it does help when you are matched up with the right size canopy for your conditions and size.
Enjoy and best winds.
I had similar problems with the element 1. It didnt have that sudden punch near the apex that kites that are designed for boosting have. It seemed to have a consistent pull that built up gradually when you send it, making holding an edge harder - although when you get your timing right it will still boost. I guess it is about tradeoffs at the end of the day,, Element 1 is a great all round kite but with a wave riding bias. From what I have seen there is a big trade off between boosting kites and wave riding kites with consistent pull and drift. Really depends what you are looking for really, you have a kite that boosts big you have to be careful with losing control of it since it will also boost you if you mess up a trickflybykite wrote: I did try it in lighter winds as well. About 12 knots one morning. I still had much of the same problem. Perhaps I just dont weigh enough and I couldnt keep a strong edge when sending it for big air.
One of my testes weighs 155lbs. I use the extra 9m of canopy to move the other one.marlboroughman wrote:I am the same weight 155 and I had very similar experience with 14m Vapor I, and the twin tip. I would not go in 12 miles and when it got to 16 miles it would pull me down wind. But when I tried it in 12 miles with a large surf board I was able to go upwind normally and challenge 17m Zephyr's and 19m Speeds. So it looks like I could use Nitro 12m for the same purpose and piss off those guys who spend fortunes on those monsters even more which is priceless
how long are your lines? 20 or 23?Kite2Heaven wrote: Looping is average when thrown into a megaloop at the top of a jump, likes to be steered around - feels like the bridles absorb too much bar input, Downloops great and a fun little kite...would be intetesting on flatwater speed runs.
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