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 Post subject: Re: what is low end grunt?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:22 pm 
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Yes, there is also the C kite grunt - which, as I understand, refer to the heavy pull during a turn because a C kite moves around a tip instead of pivoting. But again, this is pull generated by slow movement. Slowly looping a C kite pulls more than small tight loops. This is distinct from low-end grunt, but can be useful in light wind through slow sining.


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 Post subject: Re: what is low end grunt?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:59 pm 
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lobodomar wrote:
A kite is grunty when you can hear its grunt.

Only low end grunt is important, because you can actually hear the kite's grunt only when the apparent wind is really light.

The apparent wind is light only when the rider is static or moving very slowly. That's why low end grunt is a synonim of light wind static pull.

But don't be mistaken: static refers to the rider, not the kite. In the fun sizes, most of the grunt will come from the kite's movement.

What makes a grunty kite?
A combination of a deep profile and low aspect ratio.

Race kites are not grunty kites. They are high L/D, and thus shallow profile and high aspect kites.
They pull at higher apparent wind speeds, and do not move much.

You cannot hear their grunt.




Yeh I'm more in this guys camp when it comes to grunt, well explained.


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 Post subject: Re: what is low end grunt?
PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 9:43 am 
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Thx westozzy, let's hope reviewers start using some discretion when using this term, for the sake of riders who cannot demo kites by themselves.

BTW the "hearing" part was just meant to add some humour


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 Post subject: Re: what is low end grunt?
PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 9:49 am 
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Yes I realised that! Agree to, it slightly or rates me when guys on say an edge call it grunty, just doesn't quite fit the experience as opposed to being on say a best kahoona.


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 Post subject: Re: what is low end grunt?
PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 9:33 am 
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Low end grunt happens when you climb on a Wainman Big Mama! :naughty:


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 Post subject: Re: what is low end grunt?
PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 5:45 pm 
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Oldnbroken wrote:
Low end grunt happens when you climb on a Wainman Big Mama! :naughty:
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Or it happens when you climb on a Size 21m Speed3 :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: what is low end grunt?
PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 5:53 pm 
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missed the joke..did ya. :(


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 Post subject: Re: what is low end grunt?
PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 6:01 pm 
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DrLightWind wrote:
Or it happens when you climb on a Size 21m Speed3 :lol:

DrLW



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