EpicKites 4G

Laughingman · Postby **Laughingman** » Fri Aug 02, 2013 1:47 am

Dimitri M wrote:Thank you Laughingman for your inputs on the new 4G kites you just got. I guess all you had to do was try them and as always, the kites talk for themselves.

Now concerning the (5) meter extension lines for the RENEGADE 13 LTD. It is a great idea but most of the people don't like extension lines because sometimes the lines get stuck together when you relaunch the kites because of the connections. They like to fly the kite on 22 meter lines or use the 15 meters for teaching or for surfing. But they can always buy on our ONLINE STORE or any of our Epic dealers and extra set of (5 meter) extension lines.
The only kite that has an extra set of (5 meter) extension lines instead of the (15 meter) lines is the INFINITY kite. But your inputs are taken into consideration and maybe for the next (5G) kites the RENEGADE 13 LTD will come with an extra set of (5 m) lines instead of (20 m) lines.

This is the RENEGADE 13 LTD (4G) in action in Rhodos "Greece".

I did leave that out... I/we have been looking for a new quiver for years. I test drove several kites. None of them offered much of an upgrade from what I already had right up until you put these kites in our hands with the new bar prototype. SOLD! Performance, ease of use and safety. That's all I wanted... The EPIC 4G Renegades checked all the boxes.

KYLakeKiter · Postby **KYLakeKiter** » Fri Aug 02, 2013 3:24 am

Laughingman wrote:
Dimitri M wrote:Thank you Laughingman for your inputs on the new 4G kites you just got. I guess all you had to do was try them and as always, the kites talk for themselves.

Now concerning the (5) meter extension lines for the RENEGADE 13 LTD. It is a great idea but most of the people don't like extension lines because sometimes the lines get stuck together when you relaunch the kites because of the connections. They like to fly the kite on 22 meter lines or use the 15 meters for teaching or for surfing. But they can always buy on our ONLINE STORE or any of our Epic dealers and extra set of (5 meter) extension lines.
The only kite that has an extra set of (5 meter) extension lines instead of the (15 meter) lines is the INFINITY kite. But your inputs are taken into consideration and maybe for the next (5G) kites the RENEGADE 13 LTD will come with an extra set of (5 m) lines instead of (20 m) lines.

This is the RENEGADE 13 LTD (4G) in action in Rhodos "Greece".

I did leave that out... I/we have been looking for a new quiver for years. I test drove several kites. None of them offered much of an upgrade from what I already had right up until you put these kites in our hands with the new bar prototype. SOLD! Performance, ease of use and safety. That's all I wanted... The EPIC 4G Renegades checked all the boxes.

So you got to test the 4G kites with the new bar as well?

EastCC · Postby **EastCC** » Fri Aug 02, 2013 4:37 am

Can't wait to get on these kites next week. Anyone in Australia interested in the 4G kites get in contact with me and I'll hook you up with a demo.

Dimitri M · Postby **Dimitri M** » Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:29 am

This is the bag of the SCREAMER 10 LTD (4G). Once again thank you for all your inputs for making such a great epic bag.

Laughingman · Postby **Laughingman** » Fri Aug 02, 2013 2:26 pm

KYLakeKiter wrote:
Laughingman wrote:
Dimitri M wrote:Thank you Laughingman for your inputs on the new 4G kites you just got. I guess all you had to do was try them and as always, the kites talk for themselves.

Now concerning the (5) meter extension lines for the RENEGADE 13 LTD. It is a great idea but most of the people don't like extension lines because sometimes the lines get stuck together when you relaunch the kites because of the connections. They like to fly the kite on 22 meter lines or use the 15 meters for teaching or for surfing. But they can always buy on our ONLINE STORE or any of our Epic dealers and extra set of (5 meter) extension lines.
The only kite that has an extra set of (5 meter) extension lines instead of the (15 meter) lines is the INFINITY kite. But your inputs are taken into consideration and maybe for the next (5G) kites the RENEGADE 13 LTD will come with an extra set of (5 m) lines instead of (20 m) lines.

This is the RENEGADE 13 LTD (4G) in action in Rhodos "Greece".

I did leave that out... I/we have been looking for a new quiver for years. I test drove several kites. None of them offered much of an upgrade from what I already had right up until you put these kites in our hands with the new bar prototype. SOLD! Performance, ease of use and safety. That's all I wanted... The EPIC 4G Renegades checked all the boxes.
So you got to test the 4G kites with the new bar as well?

We did, but that was back in April, I am pretty sure there have been changes since then as Dimitri was not happy with it just yet.
The two things that are obvious upgrades are
1. New chickenloop
2. single center line flagging

KYLakeKiter · Postby **KYLakeKiter** » Fri Aug 02, 2013 3:11 pm

So you got to test the 4G kites with the new bar as well?[/quote]

We did, but that was back in April, I am pretty sure there have been changes since then as Dimitri was not happy with it just yet.
The two things that are obvious upgrades are
1. New chickenloop
2. single center line flagging[/quote]

OK, thanks. I got to try one of the prototypes in December and liked the way the CL was set up. I was just wondering if the production bar was out and about yet. I think this will be one of the most appreciated improvements to the 4G lineup.

Laughingman · Postby **Laughingman** » Fri Aug 02, 2013 3:33 pm

KYLakeKiter wrote: OK, thanks. I got to try one of the prototypes in December and liked the way the CL was set up. I was just wondering if the production bar was out and about yet. I think this will be one of the most appreciated improvements to the 4G lineup.

Not available yet, I have been told September but hoping to see it sooner.
I agree. This new loop is a game changer for EPIC. Not that it is miles ahead of some competitors but it certainly will bring them up to par with the industry leaders.
It amazes me that even after 5 years Flexifoil has not yet upgraded their bar... its solid but so dated and missing many features. Now partially because of that I have jumped ship and moved on.
It is costly to not keep up with the industry leaders.

nikalaitzian · Postby **nikalaitzian** » Sat Aug 03, 2013 6:41 pm

Oldnbroken wrote:Will wait to hear your results.
Bridled C kites seem to be just right for me these days, they keep most of the nice feel of a C kite, but with the easy things that the better sle/delta kites do.

I am here in Paros testing the Judge 9 prototype that Dimitri gave me. Man that kite is amazing. The only thing I did not like about it was the way it was the hooked in looping. It was not looping as fast as the Judge 8 when I was doing my kite loops. But this kite has at least 8 settings on the leading edge and I tried one of the settings I thought was good but I guess that was not a good idea and will put it back to the other setting and try it again tomorrow and let you know.

nikalaitzian · Postby **nikalaitzian** » Sun Aug 04, 2013 4:37 pm

Ok today I was able to try the Renegade 9 4g. I can't believe the hang time of this Renegade 9. I have flown the 3g but this Renegade 9 4g was just incredible. I think Dimitri and Momi did some changes on the hang time because I think this R9 had more hang time then the 3g. Maybe because it was so windy. It was gusty 18 to 32 knots. Then I took the Screamer 7 4g because it was too much for me and my god I just really love the Screamer kites. Dimitri you are not leaving with this Screamer 7, i ll keep it for me