Haven't tried the vegas since 2011, but steering/feedback was quite simular. The judge has a better low end though and easier relaunch. But even though two kites looks the same shape, they can be quite differet due to attachment points (bridle and active 5th) overall profile and wingtip profile. So it's really not fair to either kite to compare them from shape. But you're right; Most kiters who likes vegas would probably also like this kiteNYKiter wrote:Looks very similar to a North Vegas.
They might look the same but the profile and the bridles are very different from each other. And this makes the kite react very differently. So in few words, the North Vegas is a different kite then the JUDGE model from.Poster: NYKiter
Looks very similar to a North Vegas
Narrow struts are good to have but again it depends the models and what the kite was designed to do. Now concerning the Leading Edge....It's nice to have a small LE diameter but the problem with a small narrow LE is that heavier rider will tend to bend the kite when the kite is falling out of the sky and powers up again. Having a thicker LE will give you more lift but lots of drag and not as fast. So you need to find the perfect balance between all these ideas. And this is why we are using the SCREAMER 10 LTD and the RENEGADE 13 LTD so we can use different ideas for the next generation of kites.Poster: NYKiter
Besides the obvious lighter weight and less drag, can you comment on the narrow strut decision at all? I tend to be partial to narrow strut & tube configurations and noticed the Judge (as well as your renegade) appear to have relatively narrow, tapered ones. Would you consider this a trend in the industry?
Actually it was Cabrinha who started the whole big-valve thingy waaaay back when LF was still learning how to flush the toilet. Then - if i'm not mistaken - Ozone and LF fallowed in 2011 and others picked up the trend later or. That being said, LF's version is really far from being the "best" or "the most reliable" out there. So far I really like the re-freshed Cabrinha's and Core's ones which are a direct connection-type and don't require any adapters. Incidentally though I don't own either because some big-name (and really small-name) kite manufacturers still don't seem to get it!Larse wrote:I would put a bigger valve in it though. Many brands are copying LF max flow for 2014. The next judge should really have that. It makes a difference.
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