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Postby bru » Mon Sep 30, 2013 9:35 am
The whole bridal system is very interesting with respect the pulleys ... We had a long discussion with Robert Graham who is on the F-ONE R&D team and he explained just how hard it is to get the right feel and reaction - essentially getting the balance right using pullies - Bandit 7 went through over 80 prototypes to get the kite we have now - many of these were used to get the bridal with the pullies right !!
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Postby braveman » Mon Sep 30, 2013 12:02 pm
bru - Did you get to ride the B7 ?
Can you give a short review ?
Tx
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Postby bru » Mon Sep 30, 2013 3:05 pm
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Postby Marc_87 » Mon Sep 30, 2013 5:49 pm
I tried the Bandit 7 8m for about one hour in 25-30 knots of wind, here are my findings:
- Upwind performance is good;
- Jumps excellent;
- Hangtime is great;
- Has a little bit more bar pressure than the average kite;
- The kite has a good feedback;
- Loops very good! ;
- In the loops the canopy flutters;
- Depowerd the canony flutters alot and makes the kites less stable, normal powered up riding no flutter;
- Don't like the grip of the bar;
- QR is not from this time but there will be a new bar soon.
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Postby mmunzer » Tue Oct 01, 2013 7:57 am
Not really much of an explanation there. For those who have flown foils for a long time, it is well known that the bridle is the key to the kite/paraglider. Talking to very experienced paraglider designers, they say that a pulley is a way to fix problems. If the bridle doesn't work properly, you can put a pulley in, but they all strive to avoid pulleys.
I personally would prefer a kite without pulleys, if it is possible. The fact that there are kites out there without pulleys which fly great is a sign that pulleys are not absolutely necessary.
It is interesting to see companies like Ozone and Flysurfer who have a lot of experience designing bridles for soft kites, start making tube kites. Ozone for example doesn't have pulleys on any of their tube kites.
It will be interesting to see if they can make some interesting developments. For example the trailing edge bridle from Flysurfer. Not sure if it makes the kite better as I haven't had a chance to try it yet, but definately interesting to see something new again!
/Marc
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Postby braveman » Tue Oct 01, 2013 9:05 am
bru, thanks.
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