Postby longwhitecloud » Fri Nov 01, 2013 11:48 pm
delete thread? wtf.. mind u 34 posts lol
"respect" - thx , that means a lot to me...
everyone get educated by taking time to read below... I don't like long posts but the way politics has worked its ugly head here makes it impossible to shorten.
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I don't mind making comment that IKAs 2 public reports on kiteboarding were grossly irresponsible for our sport and contained inexcusable amateur inaccuracies. Like a delusional sales pitch without consideration for the current and potentially new kiteboarders that the publicity drive would initiate. Parents that aspired to get their young kids into kiteboarding, that knew nothing about kiteboarding, read those 2 reports for example. To me that reflected very badly on kiteboarding(the sport I have been doing for over 13 years) and may well have been the downfall of the campaign itself.
There were no comments whatso ever from Rick I during this time, or since about this issue.. - Just let the anti olympic campaigners have their say. The person with 10 years of hard work on kiteboard safety, didn't even make a single public comment- rumor has it you were asked not to by Markus at IKA - let him deal with the politics - the actual person that wrote these dodgy reports. Not exactly keeping it real....
The source of this rumor was on a facebook page - it is on an old hard drive as a screenshot. Also Markus didnt have a problem asking kiteboard experts not to comment /debate- leave the politics to him he said - got that one too as a screenshot.... just rely on his dodgy reports.
I know toby is friends with Markus from IKA (both German) so I guess he is torn, but I also know Toby sticks up for what he believes, because even with all the put downs about his air stye initiative - he has kept going and been part of influencing riders to enjoy their sport more (if you spent as much as you said on dvd prodution i know this lol - itunes time..!) and I know he feels a responsibility to kiteboarders above any olympic inclusion possibly in 2020 and paid advertising.
Mass exposure for kiteboarding combined with a sport where many countries had no form of training systems whatsoever and certainly very little experience of youth in kiteboarding at the time (there are exceptions). ---------- The solution by IKA was to align sailing to kiteboarding in order to rectify this situation - it was highly irresponsible because sailing clubs were being asked to hold events if they were representative for ISAF in their country as windsurfing was voted out at the time - kiteboarding in.
Meetings were held between kiteboarders and the countries olympic representative sailing clubs, and they said they couldn't believe they were stuck in this crazy situation where they had no knowledge at all of kiteboarding -a sport where you are a pilot , not a helmsman, let alone kiteboarding safety - and yet were being asked to drive the changeover from windsurfing to kiteboarding and run safe,sanctioned events when kiteboarding won the vote.
YOU COULD NOT ENTER ThESE EVENTS UNLESS YOU JOINED THE SAILING CLUB/ ISAF REPRESENTATIVE FOR YOUR COUNTRY - if you did not buy into this you would never be able to represent your country in the olympics and just had to accept that the ISAF rep for your country would be running events (some kite industry sellouts were supportive -
$$$$$). So there I was ...talking to a sailing safety officer about kiteboarding.... he had no clue whatsoever (not his fault - he was a sailor), and if i was wanting to enter oversea race competitions (my freestyle body is a touch ruined..) as i wanted to at the time , he was telling me this was the way it was going to be....
Without safe launching/ landing areas (no additional facilities for sailing clubs required according to Markus/ IKA reports bahhhh..), hook knives on support boats - what are they?, no idea how many rescue boats per kiter, no idea how to rescue a kiter safely, no idea that kiters cannot launch where there are wind shadow lulls below the force required to keep the kite in the air (kind of eliminates most sailing clubs in nz!), basically they had no business whatsoever being forced into the position where they were being asked to run these events and they were being fed the information from the 2 reports that were bull5hit anyway.
I saw this as slimy, dodgy, dangerous - basically corruption, and while it flew past many peoples heads (there were still many kiters concerned about the above at time) and certain kite industry people kept silent due to possible economic gain / olympic hype fame - god knows what... - I spoke out - with no regrets. I notice Markus is no longer president of IKA, who wrote the reports - initiated the above.
I actually couldn't give a crap about kiteboarding being in the olympics, it was no where near my priority whatsoever, and to make it VERY clear my motivation is not to collect this information for anti olympics-The next possibly of kiteboarding even being in the olympics is 2020 in case you did not already know. That article you posted on the windsurfing website (which I stand by) was a cut and paste job from my facebook page and they added in other stuff form internet searches - not a campaign from me against kiteboarding in the olympics - they created it. Even though I did not give any permission for it, I actually don't have a problem with anyone publishing it - to do so would be again - double standards...
I think I have contributed more than my fair share to promoting kiteboarding itself and kiteboarding safety, both on this website and in my country (NZ). I ran a kiteboard company since the early days 2001 (no longer), have been moderately successful in wave and freestyle competition (NZ nationals title), have contributed greatly to helping other get into it (kite school and mentoring) and have competed overseas. I have also helped run a kiteboarding charity event for a local kids hospital recently. I dislike talking about this stuff because i have a distain for narcissistic ego maniacs but feel I have no choice when someone says hang your head in shame, talks of lynch mobs and trys to paint a picture that I am doing this for the wrong reasons. I could show you 100 people I have helped for each of the sad political/$$$ driven opinionated put downs. But - this is a forum - the internet - I know it comes with the territory. I am big enough to be able to stand up for myself.
I am not paid or involved in the kiteboarding industry any more. Clearly many people think my initiative is a good idea as the database has already taken on more columns and MORE details in event description offered up by supportive kiteboarding folk. It will grow organically, Rick I didn't start with with awesome data in his personal private database...
I started the idea to give back to kiteboarding. Rick I has done good work but is not my guru, nor should he be yours. The very concept of thinking that someone that is paid to use similar data that they hold in expert witness cases should be the only person to hold this data due to access concerns is absolute bull5hit, even withholding opinion during an important transitional time for kiteboarding - It is double standards again..
What do you do when you deal with access issues - just give out the data that suits you - the situation that you are supporting... We don't have any access issues in NZ. Kiters getting killed or injured worldwide are nowhere near a level of concern for bans compared to other accepted sports so it is not a problem anyway( This doesnt really apply to nz where this kind of thinking in not normal - enjoy life - self responsibility). Injured 3rd parties are another matter completely, but in my entire time kitesurfing I have only ever heard of one bad one in france like 11 years ago and i dont know if that is true.
My motto is keep it real, I just did. I'm off to the west coast for a kite.