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 Post subject: Re: Slingshot swivel is rusted and frozen
PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 11:41 pm 
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Flight Time wrote:
I think any line swivel is of little value anyway because they won't spin with any tension on the lines. The lines will twist before the swivel moves, no matter how nice the swivel. Better to have it on the loop so you can deal directly with the inevitable twists.




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 Post subject: Re: Slingshot swivel is rusted and frozen
PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:09 am 
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windyway wrote:
Any changes to the 2012 Slingshot above-the-bar front line swivel?

On my 3 kites, it takes two hands to turn the swivels. Sometimes they freeze tight.
I started rinsing off the salt and sand, but it was too late to save them.
Rust is dripping out from the China stainless.

Back in 2012, I contacted SS Customer Service.
They told me swivels cost $100,
but they would give me a "special deal" at their cost of $50.
No thanks, I think the truth is more like $14.

So here we have a major brand, who won't stand behind a defective part.
And I just lost a buyer for my used kite, because of it.
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Same happened to mine. I tried rubbing a little oil on it to maybe reduce the rate of decay .... but I doubt it'll make any difference.

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 Post subject: Re: Slingshot swivel is rusted and frozen
PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 3:43 pm 
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kitenake wrote:
i have 5 spare ones for sale if you want 30 $$ each


$30.... i'm guessing that means ur in us or canada then?


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 Post subject: Re: Slingshot swivel is rusted and frozen
PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 4:18 pm 
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windyway wrote:
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So here we have a major brand, who won't stand behind a defective part.
And I just lost a buyer for my used kite, because of it.
...


I had the slingshot spreader bar with releasable hook ; and Loved it
until
i lost my 15M Ozone sport into a lamp-post, because it Broke. YES, the
leash was attached to the part that broke off.

There was a rusty looking residue surrounding the cracked aria.

And there STILL putting out equipment, that's made with Cheap materials ? Glad i
stopped buying there stuff about 8 years ago !!! HOW do they Stay in business ??

321 kiteboarding, out of Cocoa Beach Florida, sponsored me with my Dynabar V-7
with sliding hook ; it appears to be made from some very High-quality materials.
Will i ever purchase another one , or recommend it to a friend (?)
YES !!

http://www.321kiteboarding.com/NEW-DYNABAR.html

Bille


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 Post subject: Re: Slingshot swivel is rusted and frozen
PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 4:58 pm 
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Flight Time wrote:
I think any line swivel is of little value anyway because they won't spin with any tension on the lines. The lines will twist before the swivel moves, no matter how nice the swivel. Better to have it on the loop so you can deal directly with the inevitable twists.


Actually on my bar (Switch), it just does not work when there is no tension on the lines.
But if you get tension on the lines again, the swivel will automatically spin to untangle one twist and sometimes with even twists.

But the switch bar has both, swivel on the frontlines and one at the loop to do it by hand.
So its a nice extra.

If you get one (or two) spin, it twists automatically, if you get more, you do some by hand.


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 Post subject: Re: Slingshot swivel is rusted and frozen
PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 1:20 am 
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I guess the average person has no idea how bad salt and sand are. You can rinse all you want but you will never get all the sand and salt out. Try WD40 to break it free. In an extreme case ( I don't recommend it because I don't know how they are made ) try boiling it in water. This might completely ruin the swivel though.

I work in a chemical plant and part of a lot of our byproducts are salts. They destroy our pumps and increase corrosion. We are not talking about cheap stainless either. It's all so about $5000 a pump seal every time one goes out and those are the cheap ones.


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 Post subject: Re: Slingshot swivel is rusted and frozen
PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 1:57 pm 
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Westozzy wrote:
Flight Time wrote:
I think any line swivel is of little value anyway because they won't spin with any tension on the lines. The lines will twist before the swivel moves, no matter how nice the swivel. Better to have it on the loop so you can deal directly with the inevitable twists.




Yep!!!



Nope!!! My reasoning is that I do a lot more on one side and not on the other.

Trust me the LF swivel does work and a prof is 3hrs today with 40km in total and enormous number of loops to the right side only. Yep, my stronger side and the shore position.
For sure, no tension no spin. It will untwist itself under tension. Try it...


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 Post subject: Re: Slingshot swivel is rusted and frozen
PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 2:49 pm 
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That sucks, I fear that if it locks, it may be about to break as well.

My swivel, for the 2011 Rally 14M still works. For maintenance I dip the bar in a bucket of water with a bit of dish soap, after most sessions. I always rinse.

As far as SS support, If I even think that a SS product is faulty, my rep orders a bunch of 'em and replaces gear immediately. And I'm not a big spender.

I guess it depends on your rep?

I put that Rally 14M through some stuff. I returned it after 3 1/2 seasons to my rep, Parguera Water Sports, and he gave me a solid price on my next kite.

I only buy SS kite gear cause it has been super reliable to this point.

Kindest regards,


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