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 Post subject: Re: Waterlust Alaia Template
PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 2:56 am 
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Tinbasher wrote:
I'm going with cedar as well for my build.
We have lots in Canada.
Here are pics of my last cedar board (Mako)
Be sure to post pics when your done, as will I.


Nice stick! I most definitely will. I just need the temps to come back up so I can bust out the expoy.


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 Post subject: Re: Waterlust Alaia Template
PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2014 12:15 am 
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Finished my Cedar Alaia
Wanted it waxless so I textured the clear coat with sugar( sprinkled sugar over perforated metal for pattern).
Still waiting to test ride.


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 Post subject: Re: Waterlust Alaia Template
PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2014 3:32 pm 
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Tinbasher wrote:
Finished my Cedar Alaia
Wanted it waxless so I textured the clear coat with sugar( sprinkled sugar over perforated metal for pattern).
Still waiting to test ride.


I would certainly appreciate a report when you get the chance to give her a wack.


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 Post subject: Re: Waterlust Alaia Template
PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2014 4:55 am 
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Tinbasher wrote:
Finished my Cedar Alaia
Wanted it waxless so I textured the clear coat with sugar( sprinkled sugar over perforated metal for pattern).
Still waiting to test ride.



Very nice. How did you bond this strips? Do you have a 4 way wood clamps by any chance?

You say sugar, it is not visible tho:)


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 Post subject: Re: Waterlust Alaia Template
PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2014 5:22 am 
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here:
another smart ass low tech interruption
to make a blank of wood strips, cut out the strips.
get a cheap -but flat- 4x8 or similar, and a 1x or 2x board longer than the strips.
cover 4x8 with polyethylene (polythene to colonials) to protect against glue.
Lay out the strips as you want them to be in the board, make sure they line up etc.
Cut a foot off the end of your straight board. Cut the part you cut off into 4 or 5 smaller bits.
Screw the board to the top of the 4x8 along one edge, against your laid out strips.
Screw the smaller bits of cut board (1 screw each) to the 4x8 about 5mm or so from the free edge of the strips.
Get some thin wedges (masonry wedges or wood shingles will do).
Wedge them into the gaps between the strips and the little blocks of wood, clamping the strips together. Tap on them with a hammer, mallet, boot or rock to get it tight.
Observe how well or poorly this works, do what you must to make the strips line up properly.
Remove wedges, apply glue to strips, reassemble the same way it was when you got it all laid out and clamped flat. Weights or bags of sand or dirt may be applied to top of assembly to keep it flat.
Technophiles may use their vacuum pump to help with this.
Wait for glue to set, voila you made a strip core blank.
Spend $75 you saved on beer.

...those fancy clamps do look pretty neat though...


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 Post subject: Re: Waterlust Alaia Template
PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2014 6:49 am 
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@Tinbasher:
Very nice looking Alaia! :thumb:
How thick is the base? What's the weight?
How much rocker does it have?
Any flex?
Did you round the rails? I realy can't see from the 1st photo.

One thing I noticed, which is different from what I did, is the concave lenght. Mine was longer for half of your flat lenght. It did ride very well, so can't wait your feedback specially on rail (with this I mean the outline rails) and concave lenght.

Alaia is my favorite board, however I broke mine, and can't wait to finish new one.


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 Post subject: Re: Waterlust Alaia Template
PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2014 8:00 am 
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@BWD

the Razorsaw arrived today, hurrah! Amazing tool, the cut is like a scalpel cut. Amazing.
Gyokucho/Razorsaw 210mm AU$46 with shipping from Japan.

About the strips, yep, got a polyethylene roll, nothing sticks to it. Did this with a foam and PE under some wood support:

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My wife will kill me if I ruin the tiles...Anyways, the weight is important as bwd says...


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 Post subject: Re: Waterlust Alaia Template
PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2014 2:56 am 
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The base is 20mm thick.
Not sure on weight ,I don't have the board with me right now.
Front rocker 20mm ,300mm long and back rocker 6mm ,100mm long.
It has a little flex but not much because I fibreglassed it top and bottom with 4oz. glass.
The concave is 8mm deep 200mm wide and 2/3rd of the lower flat length long (1000mm).
Tapered the rails 50mm in, down to approx 8mm wide round.
I did my rails and concave shaping with a 36grit sanding disc on a 4.5 inch grinder( but I use a grinder every day at work on steel and if not careful it will eat the wood) then used a rotary sander with a 60 grit disc and then finish shaping with a 120 grit.
I used gorillia glue to glue it together with vise grip quick clamps across and weighted and c-clamped down with plastic covered wood 2x4 on to a wooden work bench cover in poly.
Yes some of the sugar is visible but I think some of it will fade with water exposure and use. It feels very grippy.
Still have not tried it ,there is still ice on my go too lake,hoping to use this weekend. :)


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 Post subject: Re: Waterlust Alaia Template
PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2014 9:25 am 
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Tinbasher wrote:
The concave is 2/3rd of the lower flat length long (1000mm).


That was my concern. :D
I asume your board is 1650 mm, 2/3 is 1100 mm.
+ I did the complete (max. depth) concave of 1100 mm, than you have this taper in front of concave, which is aditional 150-200 mm. So I did 1250-1300 mm long concave in total.


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 Post subject: Re: Waterlust Alaia Template
PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2014 7:43 pm 
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Hello
I'm using a pre made 1" paulownia blanks.
I don't understand how can i get a 1" front rocker from a 1" board?
Can someone please help me understand what am i missing here?
TY


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