Nope, I dont think so at all. Many hibrids have made pretty decent improvements in that time span, but the Fuel made its last major changes between 08 and 09. Pretty sure thats when they lost their 5th line and went with enough wing tip spread to get a half decent 4 line relaunch.sijandy wrote: Question, if you picked the top 2 from pkra/kota whateva and gave one of em a 2014 fuel(or whatever) and the other say a 2009 fuel, would the guy on the 2009 be a significant dissadvantage?
Well if you believe that you must be incredibly naive if you'll excuse me saying so, there's a lot of difference between the various kites on the market, some are built well some are not. Some have multiple panels some are made with just a few panels so are quicker and cheaper to sew together, the more panels the more time it takes to make them, hence the more money on labour time.sijandy wrote: the fact is theres just not that much to say about a kite. It's a big sheet of cloth with some lines attached and some inflatable bladders...
I have been riding Core since 2009 and can say that, after a while, you get used to the color scheme. In fact, you end up kind of liking it. As for quality and design, Core has always impressed me. I have flown or have Best, Ocean Rodeo and Flysurfer.Toby wrote:According to Core they are number 1 selling in Germany.
Even stronger than North.
And any level rides them.
Yes, colors are about taste. But looks like many are ok with this and it does not hurt their sales.
Yes obviously there are differences, i think you completely missed the point i was making.PinkNorthPride wrote:Well if you believe that you must be incredibly naive if you'll excuse me saying so, there's a lot of difference between the various kites on the market, some are built well some are not. Some have multiple panels some are made with just a few panels so are quicker and cheaper to sew together, the more panels the more time it takes to make them, hence the more money on labour time.sijandy wrote: the fact is theres just not that much to say about a kite. It's a big sheet of cloth with some lines attached and some inflatable bladders...
Some have cheap crap material some have more expensive stuff, the trick is being able to spot the difference and wade through all the marketing bullshit that you correctly point out is everywhere.
Take the leading edge for example, some companies make it with just one or two pieces of cloth, others use lots of bits sewn together with the grain of the cloth lined up, then the inner seams get taped to prevent jaggy bits puncturing the bladder.
Some companies use basic rip stop canopy material in large panels maybe two or three, others can use up to ninety individual bits just to get the shape they want, then there's the quality of the rip stop how many filaments in it etc, The more filaments the dearer it is.
No my friend there is a lot more to kite building than just marketing bullshit, where they often fail, is the technical departments explaining exactly what they did to the marketing bulshitters, then we never really get to know unless we study them, which as you can see, I do, hence why I'm liking that Core GTS3, I really think it's a good kite and they are are good company.
I'm an intermediate kiter. I started with another brand but have moved to Core. I own 9m, 11m, and 19m XR's. Great kites for me. Good relaunch, good upwind performance, good speed, moderate bar pressure, stable. And I like the graphics.pmaggie wrote:Reading this thread I'm noticing that all the Core owners are very happy. The only criticisms come from people who never owned a Core. And never rode one in most of the cases...
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