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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2003 7:58 am 
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hi Rick

last weekend I was with my friends on the lake to kitesurf. Most of my friends are newbies and sometimes they moves quite unexpectly. For me or for other kitesurfers it's not a problem cuz we know what can happen with kite especialy in gusty wind. But ... the windsurfers - sometimes they looks like somebody who doesn't understand enything and I start to feel some pressure created between us and WS's. I would like to avoid any misunderstandings and unfriendly situations. So my idea is to prepare some document which I could print in my house and than give it to WS's on the spots we also want to ride. I think that this can help to make our sport more safe and funy.
I'm sure that you have allready some speciment that we could translate and use. :D

thanks in advance and sorry form my English - hope that you've understand me


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2003 1:15 am 
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eutanator wrote:
hi Rick

last weekend I was with my friends on the lake to kitesurf. Most of my friends are newbies and sometimes they moves quite unexpectly. For me or for other kitesurfers it's not a problem cuz we know what can happen with kite especialy in gusty wind. But ... the windsurfers - sometimes they looks like somebody who doesn't understand enything and I start to feel some pressure created between us and WS's. I would like to avoid any misunderstandings and unfriendly situations. So my idea is to prepare some document which I could print in my house and than give it to WS's on the spots we also want to ride. I think that this can help to make our sport more safe and funy.
I'm sure that you have allready some speciment that we could translate and use. :D

thanks in advance and sorry form my English - hope that you've understand me



Hello Eutanator,












It is good that you are trying to head off problems before the start. Some ideas follow on trying to resolve issues between windsurfers and kiteboarders.

Do you have many kiteboarders that came from windsurfing or some guys that still pursue both sports? If so, these riders should be able to help keep things a bit easier going with the windsurfers.

Meeting with a few of the leading windsurfers, even in a social setting, e.g. riding clinics for both sports or even a few drinks after riding could help. Ask them what they are concerned about and try to work through the obvious points. There can be some hard feelings by virtue of the faster moderate to low end performance and higher jumps possible in kiteboarding. There is also some degree of "us - them" that can develop. It helps if a number of the kiteboarders are or were windsurfers of course. Going over what kites and lines can and can't do from a hazard standpoint should help. Preparing some written guidelines specific to your local launch and circulating them is a good idea as well. Some points follow:

1. Ideally the kiteboarder launch and riding area should be setup downwind of the windsurfer rider area if possible. Having areas where kite and windsurfer traffic needs to cross should be avoided.

2. Kiteboarders should never jump less than 60m (200 ft.) upwind of windsurfers
or anyone else for that matter, e.g. waverunners, bathers, kiteboarders,

boats, etc.

3. If kiteboarders are passing windsurfers they should go around, well
downwind of the windsurfer if possible. If conditions make this infeasible,
a rare state in my opinion, then pass upwind with your kite high and nowhere near the windsurfer's mast.

4. If a kiteboarder has his kite on the water, he should wait until the area is clear of other riders before relaunching. Windsurfers should never go over the lines of a downed kite and should stay either well upwind or downwind of the lines and kite.

5. If passing head to head, give a hand signal well in advance as to which side you are going to pass the windsurfer on if there is any potential confusion at all.

6. Otherwise normal sailing rules apply, as always such as described at:

http://www.boatsafe.com/nauticalknowhow ... /6_2_b.htm

7. If is essential that kiteboarders and windsurfers use the same launch and riding areas, things are going are to be more complicated. This situation will require some familarity and patience on the part of both kiteboarders and windsurfers. Ideally incoming windsurfers and kiteboarders should yield to outgoing kiteboarders. The guys just after kite launch have fewer options and less control than the folks already on the water. Also, it is safest if the recently launched riders could get away from shore rapidly. Guys looking to launch ideally should wait until the water off of the launch area is free of other riders before launching their kites. Kiters should wind up lines and keep kites out of the way of launching kiters and windsurfers. Make sure that there is no one with 60 m or more ideally downwind during kite launch and landing, if possible.

Simple courtesy and comon sense is really all it comes down to. If we use
it, we should all enjoy lots more time on the water free of complaints and
related issues.

Good luck!

p.s. My girlfriend has been to Hel and back ... twice in recent years and has yet to try out the windsports there. Next time!


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