I agree with youJamie-NYC wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2017 7:33 pmTo be clear I did not mean to criticize Eleveight, they know their circumstances better than any one else. It may well be that personal relationships with dealers means a more secure launch. But yes, often a website is a better strategy. It's funny that responses to this thought ranged from suggesting it could never rival a dealer network to suggesting that it worked so well for Switch that no one could compete with them. Personally I think both of those thoughts are incorrect. I also noticed that no one addressed the issue of what looks to be a euro-specific dealer network at this point, which is discouraging over here in the US. Almost certainly direct sales make global sales much easier. Then there is the issue of returning to Best's roots as a direct marketer - when Best was best. I realize that Eleveight is not Best, but they will always be associated with Best, and I would have thought they could have spun that more to their advantage with direct sales. Finally, I think that at a time when growth of the sport has largely plateaued, increasing sales will be dependent on current kiters upgrading - cost is everything in such an environment. If it costs $1500 for a new kite vs $800 - well, there will be a lot less upgrading.
In my region, both of those brands have issues with sales right now. And you can see it with North abandoning the loaded 5th line concept on their flagship kite. Core? I see maybe 1-5% of the kites out in the Gorge/Oregon coast are Core. Best, now defunct has a larger presence than them just with the old Waroo's that still fly. Maybe Europe is big for Core, but not here.Kitemanmuc wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2017 6:36 pmAll kite brands are struggling except for North and Core.
I would love to get some insight from industry people as to why this is. I was interested in Chasta's new brand when he left Ozone. But there was just no presence in the US. Is it competition with established US specific companies? Why does it seem like every new kite company starts in the EU? Is it easier to get money out of that population with hype, advertising, and team riders showing off new gear on local beaches? Are Americans more about value and less about pride than our European counterparts?
What value?Matteo V wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2017 10:11 pmI would love to get some insight from industry people as to why this is. I was interested in Chasta's new brand when he left Ozone. But there was just no presence in the US. Is it competition with established US specific companies? Why does it seem like every new kite company starts in the EU? Is it easier to get money out of that population with hype, advertising, and team riders showing off new gear on local beaches? Are Americans more about value and less about pride than our European counterparts?
To put it more simply,
So do you think the FS doesn't quite get as high a boost height as the Best TS?harppa wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2017 8:30 amHad the pleasure on riding the FS fgood few times and it is defenitely a freestyle kite. In terms of power and feel placing it between Best TS and GP is pretty spot on. You need to work a bit more on the timing compared to the TS but when you nail it the thing shoots straight up! Still you dont come down like a rock.
For me it is the most precisely controllable kite I have ever used. Even when over powered you can push the kite to the side and you don´t feel it is pulling you to strongly. Then couple of tighter turns with the kite and BANG the power is on!
Meybe not quite as easy as the TS and just by the feedback we are getting from the local riders most old TS riders are stoked about the thing and some might feel it is a bit of a handfull but they find their new best friend from the RS Havent had enough wind yet to ride the RS (only got a 10m from the first shipment) so no personal take on it.
If you have the change go and test them out! You will be very impressed about how they fly and especially on how well they are built!
Ps. I am very much biased as I am one of the distributors but hand on my hear that is my honest opinion
Pretty much everyone here who have tried it have gotten better height with WOO. And also by My experience it boosts high!Eurus wrote:So do you think the FS doesn't quite get as high a boost height as the Best TS?harppa wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2017 8:30 amHad the pleasure on riding the FS fgood few times and it is defenitely a freestyle kite. In terms of power and feel placing it between Best TS and GP is pretty spot on. You need to work a bit more on the timing compared to the TS but when you nail it the thing shoots straight up! Still you dont come down like a rock.
For me it is the most precisely controllable kite I have ever used. Even when over powered you can push the kite to the side and you don´t feel it is pulling you to strongly. Then couple of tighter turns with the kite and BANG the power is on!
Meybe not quite as easy as the TS and just by the feedback we are getting from the local riders most old TS riders are stoked about the thing and some might feel it is a bit of a handfull but they find their new best friend from the RS Havent had enough wind yet to ride the RS (only got a 10m from the first shipment) so no personal take on it.
If you have the change go and test them out! You will be very impressed about how they fly and especially on how well they are built!
Ps. I am very much biased as I am one of the distributors but hand on my hear that is my honest opinion
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