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Re: Rebel 2018 vs. Core XR5

Postby ChickenD!ken » Fri Nov 10, 2017 10:29 pm

iriejohn wrote:
Fri Nov 10, 2017 10:07 pm
ChickenD!ken wrote:
Fri Nov 10, 2017 8:45 pm
What (if anything) have you contributed to this thread?
All things being taken into account probably as much as you.
Well, I’ll be out of your hair soon enough.

You can go back to conveying your points via emoji now..

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Re: Rebel 2018 vs. Core XR5

Postby Chicken-loop » Fri Nov 10, 2017 11:44 pm

Question....

Do the direct / super direct setting options on the leading edge have an impact on turning?

Cheers..

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Re: Rebel 2018 vs. Core XR5

Postby jumptheshark » Sat Nov 11, 2017 12:09 am

Oh yeah man, it goes from awesome to awesomer.

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Re: Rebel 2018 vs. Core XR5

Postby PullStrings » Sat Nov 11, 2017 12:28 am

jumptheshark wrote:
Sat Nov 11, 2017 12:09 am
Oh yeah man, it goes from awesome to awesomer.
Whooo hooooo !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...your post #1 ..........welcome aboard Homer

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Re: Rebel 2018 vs. Core XR5

Postby PullStrings » Sat Nov 11, 2017 2:51 pm

Chicken-loop wrote:
Fri Nov 10, 2017 6:48 am
I decided to go with the XR5 instead the Rebel.
What swayed my decision was the leaked Rebel images showed the Rebel being a higher aspect design, and I wanted a more mid aspect canopy.
Haven't liked the higher aspect of Rebels for the past few years and now they bridled it !!
Approving the XR5 more mid aspect canopy
Should out sell the first generation Rebel mutation by a large margin
It's the 5 struts war for world domination
Game on
:jump:

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Re: Rebel 2018 vs. Core XR5

Postby Jbrook » Sat Nov 11, 2017 4:05 pm

Haha not ranking on anyone but I never really get stoked on valves and stuff. What matters is how kite flies and if suits your style not dump valve haha

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Re: Rebel 2018 vs. Core XR5

Postby Chicken-loop » Sat Nov 11, 2017 8:59 pm

Found the top end of the XR5 12m yesterday. A squall came through and at about 28 knots I had no more depower available either in the bar throw or trim. Kite was well behaved and manageable, however any more wind and I would have been dragged down the beach and having to hit the safety. A bloke landed the kite for me and the squall increased to close to 40, so it was a close call.

So far my pros and cons for the kite...

Cons:
Needs a longer depower throw.
Slight delay when you initiate a turn.
Heavier than I expected.
Expected better drifting - but it is a five strut kite.

Pros:
Very refined.
Doesn't misbehave.
Excellent up-wind.
Drifts better than my previous Rebel.
No power spikes, so it makes strapless very easy in choppy conditions.
Solid canopy - why I like five strut kites.
Build quality - I'm in love with the leading edge material .
The bar/line system is simple, effective, clutter free and just works to the point that you just forget about it and ride. - still undecided about the QR.
Quick to set up.
Easy relaunch.
Reasonable wind range.

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Re: Rebel 2018 vs. Core XR5

Postby PullStrings » Sat Nov 11, 2017 11:58 pm

Chicken-loop wrote:
Sat Nov 11, 2017 8:59 pm
Cons:
Needs a longer depower throw.
It's 19 1/2 inches from bar to the small black stopper at the base of the cleat...i don't see the problem there :jump:

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Re: Rebel 2018 vs. Core XR5

Postby iriejohn » Sun Nov 12, 2017 12:18 am

PullStrings wrote:
Sat Nov 11, 2017 11:58 pm
Chicken-loop wrote:
Sat Nov 11, 2017 8:59 pm
Cons:
Needs a longer depower throw.
It's 19 1/2 inches from bar to the small black stopper at the base of the cleat...i don't see the problem there :jump:
But how much trim is there above the cleat?

Total trim would 19 1/2 inches + trim above the cleat.

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Re: Rebel 2018 vs. Core XR5

Postby PullStrings » Sun Nov 12, 2017 2:24 pm

iriejohn wrote:
Sun Nov 12, 2017 12:18 am
PullStrings wrote:
Sat Nov 11, 2017 11:58 pm
Chicken-loop wrote:
Sat Nov 11, 2017 8:59 pm
Cons:
Needs a longer depower throw.
It's 19 1/2 inches from bar to the small black stopper at the base of the cleat...i don't see the problem there :jump:
But how much trim is there above the cleat?

Total trim would 19 1/2 inches + trim above the cleat.
Trim amount available above the cleat is not much....only 4 1/2 inches......so "total" 24 inches...on Sensor 2 S bar...(just measured it)
Y-pulley distance to top of cleat with no trim is 10 1/2 inches...trimmed all the way is 1 1/2" distance to top of cleat = 9 inches....divide by 2
Core trim system will shorten the front lines 4 1'2 inches

Chicken-loop said he was trimmed all the way in 28 kn of wind.....so.......

Here is what i do since since the bar can be pulled in close to the body to power up because of compact rotor QR
Slide up the bar floats and lengthen on the knots the back lines all the way out....equals 2 3/8 inches ( 6cm )..the kite will still fly great...XR5 don't like to be chocked..let it breathe
Effectiveness of depower will increase similar as if the depower trow was longer or trim was longer

Want even more depower effect
Put the back lines at wingtip pigtail all the way out ( longer )

Want even more depower effect
Move the pigtail itself on the wingtip the the central position instead of all the way out to the tip...tiny bit more bar pressure...but kite will open up more sheeting out to spill wind


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