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 Post subject: STORM RIDERS - Hurricane Images & Kiteboarding Photos
PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 9:28 pm 
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The following is a repost from http://fksa.org/:

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Going to be a wild weekend in Florida! See you all out there!

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SATURDAY
SOUTHEAST WINDS 20 TO 25 KNOTS. SEAS 7 TO 8 FEET.
INTRACOASTAL WATERS ROUGH. NUMEROUS SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS.

SATURDAY NIGHT
SOUTHEAST WINDS 20 TO 25 KNOTS. SEAS 6 TO
9 FEET. INTRACOASTAL WATERS ROUGH. SCATTERED SHOWERS AND ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS.

SUNDAY
SOUTHEAST WINDS 20 TO 25 KNOTS. SEAS 6 TO 8 FEET.
INTRACOASTAL WATERS ROUGH. SCATTERED SHOWERS AND ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS.

SUNDAY NIGHT
SOUTH WINDS 15 TO 20 KNOTS. SEAS 3 TO 5 FEET.
INTRACOASTAL WATERS CHOPPY. SCATTERED SHOWERS.




IF, folks decide to kiteboard be sure to checkout color radar, real time wind and hazard forecast carefully. More ideas about this at: http://fksa.org/viewtopic.php?t=130 Last year some guys even had laptops by the beach on aircards to monitor incoming squalls. They picked launches with large gaps between squalls and feeder bands. If it looked like something was coming in, they came in and secured a long time before any change in wind, temperature happened. Having airhorns to warn riders would be a good idea for those that choose to risk it. Even with color radar and visual observation your risk of serious injury goes up in such weather, obviously.

This is SERIOUS stuff guys. There was a rider killed in Utah and another killed in Okinawa by violent weather both quite recently. The fatality in Okinawa may have been related to a nearby Typhoon (hurricane in this hemisphere). This sort of weather is full of downbursts. Lots more about this hazard at: http://fksa.org/viewtopic.php?t=801

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A sad record from last summer.

See those feeder bands, the ones with the bright colors? Those can toss out violent gust spikes, 20, 30 to 50 + knots ABOVE background windspeed. THESE ARE COMMON IN TROPICAL SYSTEMS. An example appears below:

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Guys have already died and come close to it establishing the hazards of riding in unstable and tropical weather systems. Try to learn from the past or be fated to repeat it. More about an EARLY case of storm related lofting and injury at: http://fksa.org/viewtopic.php?t=210

Experienced kiters/windsurfers in Europe go out on windsurfers when excessively gusty wind comes along. It is harder to get lofted 100 ft. plus on a windsurfer.

Be careful out there better still, live to kite another day.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 9:37 pm 
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no offense intended, but hope that puppy makes it all the way north with some real nice 20-30mph winds. sunday would be good.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 11:44 am 
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toyletbowl wrote:
no offense intended, but hope that puppy makes it all the way north with some real nice 20-30mph winds. sunday would be good.


Absolutely, real nice winds for some folks would be good. Some of us will likely take a bad hit from this and other storms and some guys will have useable riding conditions. You might get hit by derecho's* that miss the south. That is the way of the world.

Just take the time to scope things out first to verify that squalls aren't embedded in things. You will recall the number of squalls, tornados produced by tropical cyclones as they eased inland in the past northward throught the USA.

There is an interesting article about "Great Lakes Hurricanes" from the NWS, a quote from which appears below:

"Windstorm: An intense tropical cyclone moving up from the Gulf thru eastern Texas (causing great damage in Texas), along the Missip. Valley and thence Newd across Ill & Mich, passing W & NW of Detroit with gale force winds and gusts to 65 mph from 10:18 AM - 2:30 PM & gusts to 75 mph 12:30 PM - 2:00 PM (see envelope back of book for newspaper clippings). "


The complete article appears at: http://www.crh.noaa.gov/dtx/?page=stories/dtxcane

Also, be on the lookout for derecho's*. " (pronounced similar to "deh-RAY-cho" in English or pronounced phonetically as "") is a widespread and long lived windstorm that is associated with a band of rapidly moving showers or thunderstorms." These are NOT THAT UNCOMMON in inland areas.

"How strong are derecho winds?

By definition winds in a derecho must meet the National Weather Service criterion for severe wind gusts (greater than 57 mph) at most points along the derecho path. In the stronger derecho events winds can exceed 100 mph. For example, as a derecho roared through northern Wisconsin on July 4, 1977, winds of 115 mph were measured. More recently, the derecho which swept across Wisconsin and Lower Michigan during the early morning hours of May 31, 1998 produced a measured wind gust of 128 mph in eastern Wisconsin and estimated gusts up to 130 mph in Lower Michigan."


The complete article appears at:
http://www.spc.noaa.gov/misc/AbtDerechos/derechofacts

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 11:54 am 
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This isn't about building fear, although a healthy respect can create significant survival value. These articles are about building hazard awareness, appreciation and ideas for avoiding them.

Would you go ice kiteboarding in a spring thaw on thin ice close to a wide fissure of surface water? Some guys, say from Florida, might.

Would an experienced pilot voluntarily fly into a violent storm cloud?

Would an informed person hold a softball game for kids in an obviously threatening powerful lightning storm?

These could go on for hours. You get the idea.

We need to know weather to kiteboard, both for what to look for and what to avoid.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 11:57 am 
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sometimes it is better to stay at home for one day missing one day rather than missing the rest of your life....


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 4:48 pm 
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Jupiter looks good on the cam .
anyone out yet?


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 4:44 am 
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I went out tonight after work for a while. I first looked at the color radar and noticed a large, 70 mile plus long corridor free of squalls. The area to the south over the Keys and Miami-Dade County was quite a different matter as you can see.

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I went off of Delray underneath the "95" symbol below West Palm Beach.

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I also checked the realtime wind on ikitesurf.com to see if any unstable high wind gusts or direction changes were going on. Didn't see any here, this station reads about 4 to 5 mph higher than Delray by the way. So, between the color radar, the long free corridor of squalls and fairly stable realtime winds I had at it.

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Different story further south in Miami. How would you like to be rigged for winds at around 4 pm, say with a 14 m. Lets say you stay out until 5.30 pm to get spiked by a 50 mph+ squall gust? You might get some great air but then there is the landing to think about, well inland and likely against something hard.

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Things went off at Crandon this evening as well as well as throughout the Keys with dangerous gusts in frequent squalls.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 4:54 am 
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So, I went to Delray checked out things. The sky was partially cloudy but lacked any obviously threatening clouds. I asked some of the guys what size they had been riding and was told 10 m kites. Well as it happened I had a new 10 m with me that I wanted to try out. I was a little underpowered at times but eventually the wind filled in a bit and I reasonably powered most of the time. It was a fairly technical session particularly with the waves and uneven wind.

I came in about 8 pm and put my gear away. I had noticed some slightly darker clouds moving in and thought it would be good to call it a day. Driving south about 8.30 pm the wind boosted to about 50 mph, viz dropped with driving rain. I think I caught this squall on radar, see below.

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It is that fairly small lump of red, yellow, green passing out from the "95" symbol. I have seen violent, dangerous squalls that show up even smaller than that on the radar. Scale is relative which is worth remembering.

Tomorrow is another day and with luck the storm may not strengthen. As it moves north the squalls in the feeder bands will continue to rake over the peninsula of Florida. Lots of microburst and tornado opportunities in this system. A big part of this area of the state is under a tornado watch for most of the coming night. There may not be anything close to a clear corridor like what developed off of Delray this evening. So, it may not be rideable, at least not in my book.

Do your homework and think carefully about whether to ride or not. I believe some guys were probably out in Miami complete with squalls. Life and kiteboarding can be a numbers game. Make an informed "wager" based upon readily available information and pick your own venue/terms or bet like a fool? Players choice, choose well and as Toby says, live to kite another day.

Good luck to the people impacted by this hurricane.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 2:08 pm 
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It looks like much of the state is being covered up with bands of heavy weather. Self-updating images of the hurricane on radar and satellite appear below. There is also a link to realtime wind.

Good luck to the folks along the Gulf Coast.


NOTE: The following images, regional color radar and satellite should update continuously allowing you to watch the movement of the hurricane and feeder bands.

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The above image of realtime winds is NOT self-updating. Click on the link below for current winds across Florida http://www.ikitesurf.com/windandwhere.iws?regionID=171

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 5:27 pm 
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I only know that us in St. Pete got SKUNKED for wind yesterday... and today I have to do schoolwork, it really sucks...

But I should be graduated from highschool this friday coming up... a whole year before everyone else my age.


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