Takoon Sutra 2007


Takoon Karma 2007



For a 88kg man,
chopy water, usually strong winds, -
I'm looking for high easy pop, soft landings, control, overpower and light winds, etc..
what should I choose? the KARMA or the SUTRA?
(I own a 2006 karma 128*40)


thanks,

Hey titan, your avtar and mine moove to the same BPM

You want one other board or replace the karma 128X40?

I have not seen/tested any of these 2007 boards.

The Kick 2007 have I been riding for a couple of months, but the Karma and Sutra is not here yet.

I can give you my "what I think will be the case" thoughts and knowledge, based on the 2006's and information :

The Sutra will be somewhat better upwind and early going.
The Karma will be more smooth and lively, but not as early going and not the same upwind ability.

So if you like the Karma 2006 "style" - the board you have now - you should go for the 2007 Karma.

But if you feel you need a bit more "upwind" ability, you should take the Sutra. The cost will be a bit more "stiff" board, but it'll "perform" better

Just what I'll expect - we'll have to see...

Others who has ridden both 2007's ?

Kindly, Peter Frank

Hello Peter!
What is your opinion regarding Kick board, chop handing, upwind etc? I have 2006 128x38 Kick (I guess the only difference between 2007 is colour) this is my first board and I haven't try any other brands yet. Have you tryed 2006/2007 Nobile 666, how it is compairing to Kick? Some people says Kick is too stiff
Sorry for OT!

Havent tried the Nobile yet - but should be possible one day I think

But you are wrong - the colour is not the (only) difference between 2006 and 2007 Kick boards.

2007 has an excellent flex line - softer at the ends. The 2006 was a little bit stiff, yes.
It is also a bit looser, more lively, more "new school" now.

Because of above, you can land extremely high and/or powered jumps much easier

I must say I find it a better board in all cases, than the 2006.

Maybe you can "push" more water with the 2006, when riding waves
Generally, I find that hard edges gives more feedback and spray and you can push harder - but will also be less forgiving and not be as dynamic

Apart from "maybe" that - 2007 is better in all respects, I think.

It is "my" chosen board right now, for both freestyle and waveriding.

Great pop, perfect flex, - for freestyle - and with extra sized rear fins, it is the greatest waveboard also

I like the Kick better than the Karma and Sutra - although the latter are better regarding pure pop and tricks, no doubt, and they have an extra touch of "delicate" finish also.
But as I am not into competitions, and ride a lot of waves, other things means more to me.

Excited to see how the 2007 Karma and Sutra will work when available !

When all this is said - I would also say: If you like your 2006, why not keep it ?
Of course, if you can sell or trade it reasonably, and get a 2007 - it is another issue.

Upwind is about the same

But one thing is for sure - you wont find many boards that handles chop better than the Kick boards, both 2006 and 7.

Kindly, Peter Frank

Thanks for reply, Peter!

thanks peter!
I think I'll go for the new karma..

For your programm i would take the Sutra
Because the Karma has full rails and is a lot stiffer than the sutra. It's more a TT for waves tha a TT for freestyle and freeride