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 Post subject: Read the Chat with Mark Shinn from Nobile Kiteboards!
PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 8:27 pm 
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Chat guest Mark Shinn from Nobile Kiteboarding.

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He is partner in Nobile Kiteboards and just started his own kite center on Tenerife.
Mark is also know as former 2 times world champion, who also won PKRA and KPWT at the same time.
Mark can do all styles and is nowadays enjoying the waves.
He lives on Tenerife, Canary Islands.


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Here the copy of the chat.

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# M Shinn : Take it easy guys, if you have a serious question you can PM me!
# kiril : have a nice night!
# Toby : thx for stopping buy and typing so fast! Great job and good luck with Nobiel andd your new Shinn Center in Tenerife!
# kiril : Bye MArk
# *Guest* Redha : Thanks Mark for everything, looking forward to Egypt! Keep livin' the dream dude! :)
# Toby : I will post a copy of the chat in the forum!
# *Guest* Shinn rider : thanks Mark, you're a legend.....:D
# Toby : ok, thx Mark!
# *Guest* lamza : thx shinn
# *Guest* Maurice(NL) : Thx Shinn, goodluck!
# M Shinn : OK guuys I think thats it for tonight!
# M Shinn : Why not, you never figured it out!
# *Guest* Redha : at those speeds, i'd recommed a fighter-jet! :D
# *Guest* tim(NL) : i know but thats not the reasl reason is it?
# *Guest* Shinn rider : 387 knots???!!! You da man!
# *Guest* lamza : 387!!!:) hehe
# M Shinn : 555 is 555 euro and 666 is 666 euro
# *Guest* Maurice(NL) : No, because it is tested in Hell, a town in Poland
# M Shinn : Tim..... its the price!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
# M Shinn : In 387 knots I normally ride a 7m Atom on 20m lines
# *Guest* tim(NL) : i have one very important question for you: why is the board called 666 ?
# M Shinn : Lamza.... not true!
# *Guest* lamza : is it true?
# M Shinn : But if you have the dream then go for it
# *Guest* lamza : shinn I heard that u drove x1 sle 3m in 37 knots
# *Guest* Maurice(NL) : Hm, thats not always that easy, I'll guess ill find someone who uses the 555 07, and borrow it for a short test. Thx
# M Shinn : Tim, I was full time kiting some years ago but now I have alot to do working with Nobile!
# M Shinn : Maurice, I suggest you test one as it does not matter so mùuch what I think, it's what you notice whedn you test it
# *Guest* tim(NL) : how is your life as a fulltime kiter...? id LUUUVVVV to do that if i could
# *Guest* Maurice(NL) : Mr. Shinn, You think if I trade in my 666 06 for a 555 07 it wil lbe better in chop and small waves, im 6Foot1(183CM) and 65g
# *Guest* DieCool : stil lookinbg forward to testing that skimboard in zeebrugge
# Coen : how long? dude, tthats not english:P
# M Shinn : Or a skimboard and small kite which is loads of fun?
# *Guest* infected mushroom (NL) : how long are you?
# *Guest* DieCool : light winds means a big slow kite and a big board wich is no fun
# *Guest* Finsj : What size you suggest for a light person? 128?
# M Shinn : Finsj.... it's hard to say with no info but our freestlye pure board is the 666
# kiril : oki 10x Toby
# M Shinn : What d you mean about nothing fdor light winds?
# Toby : kiril...send him a private message via the kiteforum
# *Guest* Finsj : Hi Mark, atm I use a Kiteloose Small Drug 133x37, weight 65 kg, what board you suggest for a freestyler?
# *Guest* DieCool : how come there stil isnt a good combination for very light winds?
# M Shinn : Ronnie, I use a windsurf uphaul with modified ends
# *Guest* tim(NL) : revolution dude !!! just one kite so handle it all
# *Guest* infected mushroom (NL) : sirieus, you must test the sport on 15 m lines, i have tested the 11m on 15 meter lines from lex dekker, the kite had a lot of power and pull!
# M Shinn : Lamza the new torch is a very nice kite indeed if you want a freestyle kite
# kiril : Mark what is your email address if we have any questions?
# *Guest* bender : mark i have to go now , thx for answerring my question and i hope me meet in a far distant future :-)
# M Shinn : I don't know anything about it yet
# *Guest* lamza : mark, how do U like new torch?
# *Guest* tim(NL) : and what are your thoughts of the wind x ultra flat kite coming out this summer...
# M Shinn : Probably better than my Dutch
# *Guest* infected mushroom (NL) : (my english is not so good yet)
# M Shinn : I should be testing the new Ozones next week I hope
# M Shinn : I have one in the centre and it is a great kite, light in the bar, fast enough and good depower
# *Guest* infected mushroom (NL) : but the ozone sport is a really good kite!
# *Guest* infected mushroom (NL) : Oke, we talk in Enlgish, sorry
# *Guest* Redha : k :D thanks.
# M Shinn : Sorry guys can we stick to English?
# *Guest* tim(NL) : shinn my man what do you think of the 10 switchblade 2? or have you never riden it?
# *Guest* infected mushroom (NL) : that was amazing, a lot of pull in the loops!
# M Shinn : Redha, I don't like fish boards as they are too wide to turn fast through chop.....
# *Guest* infected mushroom (NL) : yesterday i ride the 11 m on 15 meter lines
# *Guest* Frez : I'm off to bed but thanks for taking the time to answer so many questions Mark. Keep up the great work. It's clear the kiting community very much appreciates your contribution to the sport!
# *Guest* bender : you like the rebel?
# *Guest* infected mushroom (NL) : Hello Shinn, de new instict sport is a really good kite
# M Shinn : Stanley, I mean kites like the instinct or Rebel
# *Guest* sniper : i like jenna ,raven & strong wind
# *Guest* Maurice(NL) : hey shroom;) hanglos
# *Guest* Shinn rider : 5-line flat would be a hybrid... :idea:
# *Guest* infected mushroom (NL) : New men inside!
# *Guest* Redha : Thanks Mark, i looked at the Surftech website. They definitely have a great collection. What do you think of a custom 6'6 fish with reinforced fiber glass on the areas where the straps will go? I'm looking to use it in 6-10 foot surf.
# M Shinn : WJB..... I'm afraid you will have to wait and see but the goal is always better performance in an easier to use package
# *Guest* guest_stanley : with 5 line flat do you mean a bow or foils
# *Guest* Maurice(NL) : graphs*
# *Guest* Andrzeij : ah, okay. cool
# *Guest* bender : :-)
# M Shinn : Hookipa is clean, the waves are fast and powerful and it is banned to kite there
# *Guest* Maurice(NL) : I love the 666 06 man, but there's a few things wrong with it..graps wear off to quickly, and the serial number is disappearing :P
# wjb : What changes are you working on for the 08 line of Nobile boards
# *Guest* lamza : how do U like torch kite?
# *Guest* sniper : you like jenna jameson
# M Shinn : Andrzeji...... having a board brand is not really the same as havin a sponsor is it?
# M Shinn : Stanley I think pure C kites will probably become more and more specialised, the 5 line flat kite looks like the way forward to me
# *Guest* Maurice(NL) : So, surf 'on' the water, instean of carving thru it
# *Guest* Andrzeij : togehter with flash ;)
# M Shinn : Maurice, try to keep your weight centrered on the boards and try to float it over the chop not drive it though it
# *Guest* Andrzeij : aaah
# *Guest* Maurice(NL) : 'cos he's making his own kites soon i guess
# *Guest* bender : what is so great about hookipa?
# *Guest* Andrzeij : kinda strange
# *Guest* lucash : i like them both
# *Guest* Andrzeij : but you go for boards...so why no kitesponsor?
# M Shinn : I have some wave plans for this summer but until it happens you never know what you will get!
# *Guest* lucash : yeah thats for sure
# *Guest* guest_stanley : are the bows the future fot the sport or do you think the c-shape will always be there
# M Shinn : Laz, yes but it messes up the flex too much
# M Shinn : You need to tripm the kite carefully and then makes sure it is in the right area of the window..... this is why I prefer short lines in waves
# *Guest* DieCool : have you ever kited in Kenya?
# *Guest* Maurice(NL) : Hiya Shinn, any tips on riding 666 06 better in choppy water?
# *Guest* lucash : i only kite with bowkites i'm loving it
# M Shinn : I have not tested the Flexi boards sorry
# M Shinn : The bow revolution changed the sport, like it or not!
# *Guest* turbojerre : are you considering kiteing at Teahupoo or some mayor swell sometime and capture it on cam love to see that..
# M Shinn : Raven is good for freestlye but loops a little slow
# M Shinn : bender......... I would liike to ride hookipa again!
# *Guest* laz : foldable
# M Shinn : Hey slow up a little!
# *Guest* laz : ever thought of makign a flodable board for travel
# *Guest* Bram : Mark can you tell me if there is a big difference ebtween the two flexifoil boards (freestyle and the free ride version)and the 555 or 666
# M Shinn : Why would people not take me seriously for chosing not to have a sponsor?
# *Guest* Larry : what kind of musik
# M Shinn : I don't have a favourite kite in the centre but I use the ATOM when traveling as it does so many things so well
# *Guest* Frez : Is there any kite and/or board that has stood out for you as being transformational for the sport?
# *Guest* Martijn holland : Map of Problematique is a cool song
# *Guest* Bandini : do you think raven is good for freestyle?
# *Guest* bender : in all these years you have been kiteboarding, what would you like to experience again if you had to choose
# M Shinn : I was listening to Muse just now
# *Guest* lucash : i hate offices
# *Guest* lucash : that sucks
# *Guest* Andrzeij : do you think the people take you serious not riding for a kite-brand??
# M Shinn : I spend plenty enough time in my office!
# *Guest* guest_1269 : I see you offer people a lot of different choices in kites at your centre, what is your favorite kite, and why?
# *Guest* DieCool : :D
# M Shinn : You don't consider running a multi national kite board brand as a normal job?
# *Guest* Shinn rider : Mark, what's in your CD player right now?
# M Shinn : Martijn,
# *Guest* Martijn holland : Do you have a normal job, or just making boards and kitng kiting kitng?
# *Guest* blacktip : for what conditions you use it?
# M Shinn : Toby...... I've considered it but right now I am not ready to do it
# *Guest* Bandini : ei man, whats your opinion for freestyle with raven, not torch?
# M Shinn : Black tip..... sometimes yes
# Toby : Mark, do you consider making kites as well? Or will you concentrate on boards only
# M Shinn : If you have more serious questions go for it
# *Guest* blacktip : still riding xbow?
# *Guest* lucash : me 2
# M Shinn : Guys, I don't smoke and I don't think now is the time to discuss it anyway!
# *Guest* Larry : only white widow
# M Shinn : Laz .... no I never have tried one
# *Guest* bender : I'll drink to that mark! :-)
# *Guest* Oi : don't mix.
# *Guest* lucash : but does anybody know how the kiting in Rhodos is?
# Toby : stop talking about joints here, it all gets deleted, thx
# M Shinn : Bender.... the chance to travel the world for so many years and meet so many people I would not have met before
# *Guest* Larry : like a bulgarian beach
# Capi : Hhave fun!
# Capi : MARK.... You HUGE!!! GREATEST RIDER!!!! ;-)
# M Shinn : Mistral wind......... you can enjoy waves in a lot of different ways
# *Guest* laz : have you ever tried a zero gravity board? what makes them go so well in the chop? have you ever thought of making a similer board but maybe a little "looser"
# Capi : Well time to go
# *Guest* lucash : :p
# *Guest* bender : what would be according to you the most memorable thing about kiteboarding for you
# M Shinn : Redha, normal surfboards have a short life span kiting..... Surftech boards last longer but not forever!
# M Shinn : I think Egypt is a pretty nice place to learn but anywhere can be good if there is wind and a big beach
# *Guest* lucash : does anybody knows how the kiting in Greece, Rhodos is? i ant to go on vacaion there
# *Guest* sniper : come to bulgaria
# *Guest* MistralWind : just learn to jibe you dont need no stinking bidirectinal! (if your just focusing on waves that is) :)
# M Shinn : Yes a kite could take the record but I think we would need to find the right conditions....... really really flat water
# *Guest* Redha : There's something that's always bothered me, and seeing how much you ripped the waves in Funk, i'm really hesitant on whether i should get an actual kite-surfing surfboard with straps (the small ones), or a proper 6'6 surfboard with built-in straps? I would prefer a lot more the latter, but i'm a little worried about the rigidity of the surf-board.
# M Shinn : Capi, I am not sure yet but I would like to for sure
# *Guest* Shinn rider : fair enough... look forward to the 2008 Nobile Wave then...!;)
# *Guest* lucash : hello! :D
# *Guest* guest_bender : Hi mark what place would be, according to you, the best place to learn kiteboarding
# M Shinn : Shinn rider, not neccesarily, a twin in wave is differnt to a surf baord
# *Guest* Frez : Your thoughts on speed kiting? Can meaningful data useful for regular boards be obtained from this aspect of the sport? And is the ultimate goal of a kiteboarder taking the sailing speed record achievable in your opinion?
# M Shinn : Martijn, I can't explain in this time....take a look at http://www.nobileboardtour.com
# Capi : ???? Are you planning to come to portugal this year?????
# *Guest* Martijn holland : Cool, it's probably better then here in the nehterlands
# *Guest* Shinn rider : Don't get me wrong, love the boards, and the construction seems to be leading the way forward.
# M Shinn : maybe other brands in the future
# M Shinn : At this point Toby only Nobile, Shinn and NBL boards
# *Guest* Shinn rider : but surely a wave TT would be better with a rounded "Surf" rail? No?
# M Shinn : Martijn I am in Tenerife
# *Guest* Martijn holland : Waht is the difference between a 555 and 666 07?
# Toby : do you also have other boards to test at the shinn center?
# M Shinn : Laz, to some extent yes it makes a difference but not as much a most people think!
# M Shinn : Shinn rider..... I think so yes
# Toby : he is in Tenerife
# *Guest* MistralWind : hehe nice tease. they are open!
# M Shinn : Martijn, I have not tested the Thorn so I can't say but I think the 666 propbaly has a higher performance
# *Guest* Martijn holland : Where are you now, Shinn?
# *Guest* Chris : Looking forward to meeting you in Egypt dude! :D Ta
# M Shinn : Mistral wind...... keep your eyes open
# M Shinn : slow down a little guys
# *Guest* Chris : It's thick already, i think i need a pair of solid titanium balls
# Capi : ?
# Capi : What board is this one: Shinn Wave Twin tips
# M Shinn : Go out and have fun, if you swim on every trick for a week who cares? At the end of it you will have acheived something!
# *Guest* laz : do yout hink a boards weight realy affects performance very much? or is it a mental thing like if you think its lighter you can jump better??
# *Guest* Shinn rider : Talking of wave boards.... would a wave TT actually work with the Nobile construction?
# M Shinn : Chris, the only solution is to grow a thick skin!
# *Guest* Martijn holland : The Thorn = more freestyle, more pop, and the 666 = more allround, better in choppy conditions?
# M Shinn : different rocker, outline, flex, weight, core build up etcetcetc
# M Shinn : These are two different baords......
# M Shinn : Martijn
# M Shinn : lex.... no bnrand is perfect but as long as we keep improving I will be ahppy
# *Guest* MistralWind : wave boards - wave boards! nobile can surely bring innovation in the surfing side of kitesurfing whats on your mind?
# *Guest* Max from Holland : Thanx, we keep in touch, Ciao
# M Shinn : http://www.theshinncentre.com
# *Guest* Chris : Hi Mark it's Chris, i'm a friend of Ian's and Redha's out in Dubai. If Ian ever talks to you about me then you'll know me as kiteboy! I also MIGHT be headed to Egypty to instruct but i just wanted to ask you have you got any tips for boosting your mentality in the sport? I'm tempted to go out and try new tricks but i worry about getting it perfect or landing all the time!:$
# *Guest* Martijn holland : Hi Mark, waht is the difference between a Naish Thorn 07 and the new Nobile 666?
# M Shinn : All the four fin boards I tried have a tonne of grip in the turn but are too sliddy and skatey off the lip for me
# *Guest* lex : well mark, i hope i get a lot of money this summer, so i can buy a nobile board :D ! You don't hear any bad about them, only good stuff!. I have to make my homework now, keep up the good work and it was an honour to chat with you 8)
# *Guest* Max from Holland : what's the exact url for the SHinn Centre website? I will regalurly visit next coming weeks
# M Shinn : Right now I like 3 more but after 20 years surfing it is a little normal.
# M Shinn : I have tried and I don't know.
# M Shinn : Re 3 or 4 fins
# M Shinn : Ion 2 not yhet..... hopefully this week
# Toby : how much for a week?
# M Shinn : With the speed kites lose money buying the right one is more important then ever!
# M Shinn : There is a cost to rent but you can change and test as many different kites and boards as you like during your stay
# Toby : sure, that's fine. It costs more buying somethin which is ok, rather than something that is better after it...
# *Guest* Bram : Hi Mark have you tested the Ion 2 yet?
# *Guest* laz : ever thought of having under 18 only competitions
# M Shinn : The iondustry does not support the centre yet and it is not too cheap to have 50 kites ofr test.
# RobMobius : There has been alot of debate over thrusters vs quad fins for wave boards, your thoughts?
# *Guest* lex : ik ook flyingdutchman :D
# *Guest* guest R@bert frm Holland : same hear for the 555...what a magnificent board
# M Shinn : Anyone can come but it's not free!
# *Guest* flying dutchman : I was 14 when I started (also dutch) and just spend all my money an d all my birthday/christmas presents on kitesurfing and I took a job and spend all that money on kitesurfing too, not easy, but it is possible
# M Shinn : Thanks Redha, you made me blush
# Toby : Mark, can everyone come to your Shinn center on Tenerife and test the gear? For free?
# *Guest* Redha : No worries, sorry I missed you myself. Just wanted to say a quick hello, hope to see you soon, i'm actually planning on going to Hurghada in the next couple of weeks and teach at Colona. Can't get enough of the 666, can't wait to see what's coming next! :D You truly are an inspiration and living-legend to this sport!
# M Shinn : I am planning some clinics in Tenerife but the details are not ready yet!
# Toby : Laz: I think so too. Specially on Ebay you get so cheap used gear...sometimes it looks like buying ski gear is more expensive!
# M Shinn : I have 2 clinics in Egypt in June but they are bnooked out.
# James Bond : are u doing any kite clinics this year?
# *Guest* lex : i work also al the vacations for kiteboarding
# *Guest* laz : th lessons and boards were the expensive part
# M Shinn : Ciao MAx, keep checking the SHinn Centre website for clinic details
# *Guest* laz : i am too i worked all summer and then spent every penny i earned and got a kite any kid can kite if he can save
# M Shinn : Bow all the way........... the safety concerns outweigh all other options
# *Guest* lex : sorry for my poor english
# *Guest* Max from Holland : Can you let me know when? Would be nice to learn some new stuff from you. Keep me posted, hang loose, have to stop now Adios
# M Shinn : krill
# *Guest* lex : i am 15
# Toby : how old lex?
# M Shinn : The switchblade 2 is very very nice, comfortable anbd easy..... I think most riders would be very happy with it
# *Guest* lex : he mark, i'm a kid from the netherlands that is kitesurfing:D
# M Shinn : I hope that more and more kidswill get into kiting but it is not a cheap sport;......
# M Shinn : Laz....
# kiril : for beginers Bow or C-kite?
# James Bond : how do u rate the cab switchblade 2
# M Shinn : Hey Redha, sorry I missed you when I was in Dubai last month
# *Guest* laz : do you think that more kids will get into kiting or that it will stay as an over 18 majority
# *Guest* sniper : what for double de power naish sistem
# *Guest* MistralWind : Is the idea of adding a new dedicated wave board around your mind? Im sure we would all like to see some great innovation on the whole wavekitesurfing side of the sport..Im sure nobile can bring that!
# M Shinn : I think I will try to run some short courses from the centre in Tenerife later in the year
# *Guest* Redha : Hey Mark, it's Redha from Dubai. Can't wait to finally get some kiting done in Egypt! :D
# M Shinn : I would love to run more clinics but time is tight!
# M Shinn : Hi Max,
# *Guest* Frez : Obviously some of us have no choice considering where I live. Incidentally you were here in Dubai recently...what did you think?
# M Shinn : I think the job of the manufacturer is to service the consumers wants and needs not just to tell you what is and what is not cool!
# *Guest* gck : dinner time for me but thanks for answering my q's, good luck for the future mr shinn, my bellie is rumbling..lol
# M Shinn : If you are having fun then great....... as long as I am not losing money with it I will try to make boards for everyone
# M Shinn : I try not to judge other kiters.....
# M Shinn : Frez....... Of course!
# M Shinn : Remi Meum our team rider is also 100% convinced
# *Guest* Max from Holland : Any other possibilities for continuing last years course, Mark?
# M Shinn : OUr factory is in a snow region and the guys swear that once you ride a snowkite baord you will not go back.......
# *Guest* Frez : Do you regard the light wind (less than 12 knots) board market as significant?
# M Shinn : I am running courses in Hurghada again in June but they all sold out very quickly
# M Shinn : The future is still better safety in kites,
# *Guest* sniper : tanks
# M Shinn : Raven for hang time, but torch sure juimps high
# *Guest* gck : lol
# M Shinn : Hang on.... one at a time!
# *Guest* gck : as i though ,cheers fella
# *Guest* laz : do you think thats these snowkite specifics boards are just hype or could be awesome
# M Shinn : I'm not an expert but Nobile has around 12 cnc machines, 18 presses and alot of technicians on hand to program etc..... it thinkit is pretty expensive to make cutom or small order boards in this fashion....
# *Guest* Max from Holland : Last year in Hurghada was a top course, what about this year?
# *Guest* sniper : raven or torch for big jump
# James Bond : whats the future for kite design in the next few years?
# M Shinn : GCK
# M Shinn : we decided to combine forces to try to make the brand both they and I were dreaming of
# kiril : Mark in our country Kiteboarding is not very popular sport can you tell something very important for all BG kiteboarders and new kite fans.
# M Shinn : I went to the Nobile factory to talk to them about developing boards and they had some fantastic ideas.......
# wjb : How long has Nobile been making kite boards and how long have you been with them?
# *Guest* Frez : That's great to hear!
# *Guest* gck : i make my own using vac techniques,but have no clue how to make the next step to press techniques, any advice you can give?
# RobMobius : How did the name Nobile come about?
# M Shinn : We are just started
# M Shinn : Don't make the mistake of thinking we are reaching the limits of technology
# M Shinn : the Nobile team of distributors are friends so it is pleasnt to read my mails every day
# M Shinn : Yes making a globazl brand has been alot of work but also alot of fun
# M Shinn : no expensive flashy marketing, spend all the money on r and d and let the kiters vote with their wallets
# *Guest* Frez : Do you think the pace of board development is speeding up or is it slowing as we reach the limits of materials and technology?
# M Shinn : I wanted to try to make a complete package and then put the choice in the hands of the riders
# *Guest* gck : has it been hard work making it a global brand?
# M Shinn : I thought that alot of the major brands were making boards as an after thought and not devoting the time and energy needed to make truly good kiteboards
# M Shinn : After I left Niash I felt that there was a gap in the market for a new brand.
# M Shinn : GCK......
# M Shinn : Softness is a board that is just that.... no control of the flex just bending.
# *Guest* laz : when i say flew i mean liek with a plyboard how you can give it more or less rocker depending on how you lean and how much you weigh
# M Shinn : Flex is the carefully controlled bend and response in certain areas of the board. A good flex pattern is not equal throughout the board.
# *Guest* gck : how did you decide to get into the whole board building thing?
# M Shinn : sorry (caps lock key)
# M Shinn : IT'S IMPORTANT NOT TO CONFUSE LEX WITH SOFTNESS
# Capi : Mark whats your opinion about boardsl ike RRD ToxicWave or Fone Legend??
# M Shinn : Laz....
# Toby : I think this is what eveyone wants to see...
# M Shinn : maybe even a wave or 2? ;)
# Toby : nice
# M Shinn : big air, freestlye PKRA way, Lenten style, straplees style
# *Guest* laz : have you ever considered making a very flexible twintip and having differant spots too put the footstraps for differant winds like in highwind near the edge of the board, etc. kinda liek that kiting surfboard that has movable fins
# *Guest* flying dutchman : What is the best old school board in the market today?
# M Shinn : I would like to see an event that encompasses ALL of kiteboarding
# *Guest* gck : yes i agree
# Toby : Mark, if you would organize an event, what would it look like?
# M Shinn : Shape is not the only important part of a board, the smae shape with the different flex layout will behave COMPLETELY differently
# Toby : there are always little things to improve and then new ideas etc...at one point they have to sell!
# Toby : otherwise there would be no board!
# M Shinn : It's a continuous ongoing process
# *Guest* gck : good days and long days then
# M Shinn : It's not a process that we do for one or 2 months a year
# M Shinn : The we carry on developing for the next year.....
# M Shinn : We develop boards until we have to go into production for the year.........
# *Guest* gck : lol
# M Shinn : Well, there is no answer to that.....
# M Shinn : It's just a question of what you want to prioritise
# *Guest* gck : how many shapes do you go though before you approve a shape?
# M Shinn : No matter how good you are you can't ride well if you are not comfortable
# M Shinn : The most important thing for any rider of any weight is ease of use.
# M Shinn : Laz....
# *Guest* gck : cool
# M Shinn : When I approive a board for series I know that 100% the same board will make it to the shops and into your hands
# M Shinn : Well, one of the benefits of snowboard construction is that we can prototype from the factory. That means there is no difference between proto and production......
# *Guest* laz : what do you think are the most important things in a board for a person under 140 pounds especialy in chop
# kiril : Mark what do u think about Cabrinhas boards?
# M Shinn : Unfortunately the public understand nothing of technique, only spectacule
# *Guest* gck : no custom twins then?
# M Shinn : 7 to 8
# James Bond : rhino 07 marks out of 10?
# M Shinn : I still ride custom surfboards
# M Shinn : If you want the pulics money in the sport (sponsors etc) then you have to give them something they love to watch
# *Guest* guest_955 : so do you still ride true customs at all?
# M Shinn : Jonno I don't think competitions are too specialised I think they are just not appealing enough for the puplic
# M Shinn : Well, the benefits are lightweight, extreme durability, great control of flex
# Toby : and less weight?
# M Shinn : composite cores and accurate flex control
# *Guest* laz : but like what are the pros and cons of that
# M Shinn : That means using high temperature high pressure presses
# *Guest* Frez : I'd like to second that snowboard technology question...how does that compare to say a wakeboard?
# M Shinn : Snowboard technology means built in the same way as a snowboard.....
# M Shinn : For wave riding I prefer short, for big air I prefer long
# M Shinn : On line lengths..... different days differnt lines
# M Shinn : Toby....... I can neither confirm nor deny that rumor ;)
# jonno179 : that's an interesting take on the whole surfing thing with with regards the variation of the sport-do you think that the competition scene is getting too specialised?
# M Shinn : Fav 12m freestyle kite is the Fuel or the Torch 3
# Tux : thanks
# Toby : a surfstyle board being ridable as twintip would be a big market I think. Do you have something like this coming?
# RobMobius : Mark - whats your take on different line lengths, Aaron is on 17m others on 27m - whats your approach?
# *Guest* laz : youg uys always say "snowboard technologie" what do you mean when you say your boards are built using more of "snowboard technoligie"
# M Shinn : The bigger board planes earlier, is better in chop, goes upwind faster, has more pop and is easier to land on
# James Bond : whats your fav freestyle kite? 12m
# M Shinn : The flex makes it very controllable
# Toby : including me...
# M Shinn : I also think that alot of people struggle with the gybing thing still
# M Shinn : if the sport only looks to waves then it becomes very elitist
# M Shinn : What makes kiting great is that people who ride inland lakes have a chance to be world champion too
# M Shinn : I thinks surfboards are very very cool BUT
# M Shinn : Yes I am sure Aaron has what it takes
# M Shinn : For me a flat 5 line kite like the rebel or Ozone Instinct is a hybrid and I think they are probably the future of high performance kites
# Tux : Mark do you think surfboard market is interesting for brands. or are they things for custom brands, and in particular is Nobile involved in any project?
# Toby : yeah I saw your video riding in Tenerife with it...awesome clip!
# M Shinn : I think there is alot of confusion over what is a hybrid
# *Guest* Shinn rider : Do you think Aaron has what it takes to get title #4??
# M Shinn : But for simply huge jumps I think the Crossbow 1 is hard to beat
# *Guest* kiril : Mark whats is your opinion about hybrid kites?
# M Shinn : For old school board offs etc I like the raven most
# Toby : which kite is your favourite for big air and hangtime? In 12 sqm size?
# M Shinn : I think there is still alot to learn about flex and that it represents an extra dimension in kiteboards
# James Bond : did you enjoy my latest film?
# M Shinn : I think it is a dying breed but I love it for old school
# M Shinn : Raven is the last in a long line of big air jumping kites......
# RobMobius : horses for courses then
# *Guest* laz : do you think that in the future all boards will go to a thinner sharper edged profile with more flex epecialy in the chop
# M Shinn : yesterdau I rode a 7m ATOM and strapless surfboard
# Toby : Raven3? How did you like it?
# M Shinn : Today I rode 12m Raven and a wave prototype board
# RobMobius : which is?
# M Shinn : In the centre in Tenerife we have nearly all brands of kites and I can just use the one I like on the day!
# Toby : what do you ride currently, boards and kites?
# M Shinn : At the moment I ride what ever I like.......
# M Shinn : I don't like them for freestylme though
# M Shinn : I like bow kites in strong winds for sure
# Capi : MARK what are the plans for the current year?
# *Guest* sniper : MARK whats for new RAVEN
# Toby : **It is hard for Mark to keep track of all questions at once, so please ask your question again if he misses one**
# *Guest* 666 PTEX : Got to go Mark, Props to you, you're a top rider and from what I hear a top guy. Best of luck with the Shinn Centre
# M Shinn : James,
# M Shinn : OK, one at a time....
# James Bond : mark , whats your opion on bow kites?
# Tux : Hi Mark, what brand of kite are you using at the moment?
# M Shinn : What would you liek to know about KOTA
# Capi : MARK what are the plans for the current year?
# *Guest* kiril : MArk you are welkome to Bulgaria
# M Shinn : I've never been to Bulgaria but I heard it is beautiful
# *Guest* 666 PTEX : Nevermind, so tell me about the King of Air victory
# M Shinn : You have all the time in the world to perfect a move on video!
# *Guest* sniper : MA when you will visit Bulgarian kite beaches
# Toby : I'm sure Mark will upload more videos for free as well!
# *Guest* 666 PTEX : I have tried asking Mike in the UK but he directed me to Poland
# M Shinn : Thanks, but remember that video and real life are not always one and the same!
# Capi : mark what are you plans for the current year?
# *Guest* laz : oh thats too bad.... your sooo good on a skim its awesome to watch
# M Shinn : Maybe but you need to ask your local distributor
# *Guest* guest_625 : Is there any of the PTEX's hanging around in Poland that I can get?
# M Shinn : Go on E bay the day after you finish and copies are on sale for 2 euro!!!
# *Guest* sniper : you know for BULGARIAN kitebrothers
# M Shinn : Sales are so low that unless a sponsor pays the whole thing you can only lose money with it
# *Guest* guest_625 : But I want one:(
# Capi : MARK THE MAN!!!
# M Shinn : DVD's are hard.....
# M Shinn : There is no PTEX model this year as there was not enough demand for it
# *Guest* laz : i realy liked your vid of you on a skimboard on youtube but will you ever make a full leght movie of only skimboarding and tips on it and tricks.
# M Shinn : Just come in from the water, nice 12m big air session
# M Shinn : I am in Tenerife
# *Guest* guest_625 : Mark, why have Nobile decided not to make a Ptex model this year?
# Toby : Mark, where are you at?
# M Shinn : Thanks, I type a little slow so give me a chance tonight!
# *Guest* sniper : HI MARK
# Toby : welcome Mark!
# Toby : there he is!
# M Shinn : I am here!
# M Shinn : Hi everyone,
# *Guest* sniper : tanks
# Toby : his username is "M Shinn"

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# Toby : his username is "M Shinn"
# *Guest* sniper : tanks
# M Shinn : Hi everyone,
# M Shinn : I am here!
# Toby : there he is!
# Toby : welcome Mark!
# *Guest* sniper : HI MARK
# M Shinn : Thanks, I type a little slow so give me a chance tonight!
# Toby : Mark, where are you at?
# *Guest* guest_625 : Mark, why have Nobile decided not to make a Ptex model this year?
# M Shinn : I am in Tenerife
# M Shinn : Just come in from the water, nice 12m big air session
# *Guest* laz : i realy liked your vid of you on a skimboard on youtube but will you ever make a full leght movie of only skimboarding and tips on it and tricks.
# M Shinn : There is no PTEX model this year as there was not enough demand for it
# M Shinn : DVD's are hard.....
# Capi : MARK THE MAN!!!
# *Guest* guest_625 : But I want one:(
# M Shinn : Sales are so low that unless a sponsor pays the whole thing you can only lose money with it
# *Guest* sniper : you know for BULGARIAN kitebrothers
# M Shinn : Go on E bay the day after you finish and copies are on sale for 2 euro!!!
# *Guest* guest_625 : Is there any of the PTEX's hanging around in Poland that I can get?
# M Shinn : Maybe but you need to ask your local distributor
# *Guest* laz : oh thats too bad.... your sooo good on a skim its awesome to watch
# Capi : mark what are you plans for the current year?
# M Shinn : Thanks, but remember that video and real life are not always one and the same!
# *Guest* 666 PTEX : I have tried asking Mike in the UK but he directed me to Poland
# Toby : I'm sure Mark will upload more videos for free as well!
# *Guest* sniper : MA when you will visit Bulgarian kite beaches
# M Shinn : You have all the time in the world to perfect a move on video!
# *Guest* 666 PTEX : Nevermind, so tell me about the King of Air victory
# M Shinn : I've never been to Bulgaria but I heard it is beautiful
# *Guest* kiril : MArk you are welkome to Bulgaria
# Capi : MARK what are the plans for the current year?
# M Shinn : What would you liek to know about KOTA
# Tux : Hi Mark, what brand of kite are you using at the moment?
# James Bond : mark , whats your opion on bow kites?
# M Shinn : OK, one at a time....
# M Shinn : James,
# *Guest* 666 PTEX : Got to go Mark, Props to you, you're a top rider and from what I hear a top guy. Best of luck with the Shinn Centre
# Toby : **It is hard for Mark to keep track of all questions at once, so please ask your question again if he misses one**
# *Guest* sniper : MARK whats for new RAVEN
# Capi : MARK what are the plans for the current year?
# M Shinn : I like bow kites in strong winds for sure
# M Shinn : I don't like them for freestylme though
# M Shinn : At the moment I ride what ever I like.......
# Toby : what do you ride currently, boards and kites?
# M Shinn : In the centre in Tenerife we have nearly all brands of kites and I can just use the one I like on the day!
# RobMobius : which is?
# M Shinn : Today I rode 12m Raven and a wave prototype board
# Toby : Raven3? How did you like it?
# M Shinn : yesterdau I rode a 7m ATOM and strapless surfboard
# *Guest* laz : do you think that in the future all boards will go to a thinner sharper edged profile with more flex epecialy in the chop
# RobMobius : horses for courses then
# M Shinn : Raven is the last in a long line of big air jumping kites......
# M Shinn : I think it is a dying breed but I love it for old school
# James Bond : did you enjoy my latest film?
# M Shinn : I think there is still alot to learn about flex and that it represents an extra dimension in kiteboards
# Toby : which kite is your favourite for big air and hangtime? In 12 sqm size?
# M Shinn : For old school board offs etc I like the raven most
# *Guest* kiril : Mark whats is your opinion about hybrid kites?
# M Shinn : But for simply huge jumps I think the Crossbow 1 is hard to beat
# *Guest* Shinn rider : Do you think Aaron has what it takes to get title #4??
# M Shinn : I think there is alot of confusion over what is a hybrid
# Toby : yeah I saw your video riding in Tenerife with it...awesome clip!
# Tux : Mark do you think surfboard market is interesting for brands. or are they things for custom brands, and in particular is Nobile involved in any project?
# M Shinn : For me a flat 5 line kite like the rebel or Ozone Instinct is a hybrid and I think they are probably the future of high performance kites
# M Shinn : Yes I am sure Aaron has what it takes
# M Shinn : I thinks surfboards are very very cool BUT
# M Shinn : What makes kiting great is that people who ride inland lakes have a chance to be world champion too
# M Shinn : if the sport only looks to waves then it becomes very elitist
# M Shinn : I also think that alot of people struggle with the gybing thing still
# Toby : including me...
# M Shinn : The flex makes it very controllable
# James Bond : whats your fav freestyle kite? 12m
# M Shinn : The bigger board planes earlier, is better in chop, goes upwind faster, has more pop and is easier to land on
# *Guest* laz : youg uys always say "snowboard technologie" what do you mean when you say your boards are built using more of "snowboard technoligie"
# RobMobius : Mark - whats your take on different line lengths, Aaron is on 17m others on 27m - whats your approach?
# Toby : a surfstyle board being ridable as twintip would be a big market I think. Do you have something like this coming?
# Tux : thanks
# M Shinn : Fav 12m freestyle kite is the Fuel or the Torch 3
# jonno179 : that's an interesting take on the whole surfing thing with with regards the variation of the sport-do you think that the competition scene is getting too specialised?
# M Shinn : Toby....... I can neither confirm nor deny that rumor
# M Shinn : On line lengths..... different days differnt lines
# M Shinn : For wave riding I prefer short, for big air I prefer long
# M Shinn : Snowboard technology means built in the same way as a snowboard.....
# *Guest* Frez : I'd like to second that snowboard technology question...how does that compare to say a wakeboard?
# M Shinn : That means using high temperature high pressure presses
# *Guest* laz : but like what are the pros and cons of that
# M Shinn : composite cores and accurate flex control
# Toby : and less weight?
# M Shinn : Well, the benefits are lightweight, extreme durability, great control of flex
# M Shinn : Jonno I don't think competitions are too specialised I think they are just not appealing enough for the puplic
# *Guest* guest_955 : so do you still ride true customs at all?
# M Shinn : If you want the pulics money in the sport (sponsors etc) then you have to give them something they love to watch
# M Shinn : I still ride custom surfboards
# James Bond : rhino 07 marks out of 10?
# M Shinn : 7 to 8
# *Guest* gck : no custom twins then?
# M Shinn : Unfortunately the public understand nothing of technique, only spectacule
# kiril : Mark what do u think about Cabrinhas boards?
# *Guest* laz : what do you think are the most important things in a board for a person under 140 pounds especialy in chop
# M Shinn : Well, one of the benefits of snowboard construction is that we can prototype from the factory. That means there is no difference between proto and production......
# M Shinn : When I approive a board for series I know that 100% the same board will make it to the shops and into your hands
# *Guest* gck : cool
# M Shinn : Laz....
# M Shinn : The most important thing for any rider of any weight is ease of use.
# M Shinn : No matter how good you are you can't ride well if you are not comfortable
# *Guest* gck : how many shapes do you go though before you approve a shape?
# M Shinn : It's just a question of what you want to prioritise
# M Shinn : Well, there is no answer to that.....
# *Guest* gck : lol
# M Shinn : We develop boards until we have to go into production for the year.........
# M Shinn : The we carry on developing for the next year.....
# M Shinn : It's not a process that we do for one or 2 months a year
# *Guest* gck : good days and long days then
# M Shinn : It's a continuous ongoing process
# Toby : otherwise there would be no board!
# Toby : there are always little things to improve and then new ideas etc...at one point they have to sell!
# M Shinn : Shape is not the only important part of a board, the smae shape with the different flex layout will behave COMPLETELY differently
# Toby : Mark, if you would organize an event, what would it look like?
# *Guest* gck : yes i agree
# M Shinn : I would like to see an event that encompasses ALL of kiteboarding
# *Guest* flying dutchman : What is the best old school board in the market today?
# *Guest* laz : have you ever considered making a very flexible twintip and having differant spots too put the footstraps for differant winds like in highwind near the edge of the board, etc. kinda liek that kiting surfboard that has movable fins
# M Shinn : big air, freestlye PKRA way, Lenten style, straplees style
# Toby : nice
# M Shinn : maybe even a wave or 2?
# Toby : I think this is what eveyone wants to see...
# M Shinn : Laz....
# Capi : Mark whats your opinion about boardsl ike RRD ToxicWave or Fone Legend??
# M Shinn : IT'S IMPORTANT NOT TO CONFUSE LEX WITH SOFTNESS
# M Shinn : sorry (caps lock key)
# *Guest* gck : how did you decide to get into the whole board building thing?
# M Shinn : Flex is the carefully controlled bend and response in certain areas of the board. A good flex pattern is not equal throughout the board.
# *Guest* laz : when i say flew i mean liek with a plyboard how you can give it more or less rocker depending on how you lean and how much you weigh
# M Shinn : Softness is a board that is just that.... no control of the flex just bending.
# M Shinn : GCK......
# M Shinn : After I left Niash I felt that there was a gap in the market for a new brand.
# M Shinn : I thought that alot of the major brands were making boards as an after thought and not devoting the time and energy needed to make truly good kiteboards
# *Guest* gck : has it been hard work making it a global brand?
# M Shinn : I wanted to try to make a complete package and then put the choice in the hands of the riders
# *Guest* Frez : Do you think the pace of board development is speeding up or is it slowing as we reach the limits of materials and technology?
# M Shinn : no expensive flashy marketing, spend all the money on r and d and let the kiters vote with their wallets
# M Shinn : Yes making a globazl brand has been alot of work but also alot of fun
# M Shinn : the Nobile team of distributors are friends so it is pleasnt to read my mails every day
# M Shinn : Don't make the mistake of thinking we are reaching the limits of technology
# M Shinn : We are just started
# RobMobius : How did the name Nobile come about?
# *Guest* gck : i make my own using vac techniques,but have no clue how to make the next step to press techniques, any advice you can give?
# *Guest* Frez : That's great to hear!
# wjb : How long has Nobile been making kite boards and how long have you been with them?
# M Shinn : I went to the Nobile factory to talk to them about developing boards and they had some fantastic ideas.......
# kiril : Mark in our country Kiteboarding is not very popular sport can you tell something very important for all BG kiteboarders and new kite fans.
# M Shinn : we decided to combine forces to try to make the brand both they and I were dreaming of
# M Shinn : GCK
# James Bond : whats the future for kite design in the next few years?
# *Guest* sniper : raven or torch for big jump
# *Guest* Max from Holland : Last year in Hurghada was a top course, what about this year?
# M Shinn : I'm not an expert but Nobile has around 12 cnc machines, 18 presses and alot of technicians on hand to program etc..... it thinkit is pretty expensive to make cutom or small order boards in this fashion....
# *Guest* laz : do you think thats these snowkite specifics boards are just hype or could be awesome
# *Guest* gck : as i though ,cheers fella
# M Shinn : Hang on.... one at a time!
# *Guest* gck : lol
# M Shinn : Raven for hang time, but torch sure juimps high
# *Guest* sniper : tanks
# M Shinn : The future is still better safety in kites,
# M Shinn : I am running courses in Hurghada again in June but they all sold out very quickly
# *Guest* Frez : Do you regard the light wind (less than 12 knots) board market as significant?
# M Shinn : OUr factory is in a snow region and the guys swear that once you ride a snowkite baord you will not go back.......
# *Guest* Max from Holland : Any other possibilities for continuing last years course, Mark?
# M Shinn : Remi Meum our team rider is also 100% convinced
# M Shinn : Frez....... Of course!
# M Shinn : I try not to judge other kiters.....
# M Shinn : If you are having fun then great....... as long as I am not losing money with it I will try to make boards for everyone
# *Guest* gck : dinner time for me but thanks for answering my q's, good luck for the future mr shinn, my bellie is rumbling..lol
# M Shinn : I think the job of the manufacturer is to service the consumers wants and needs not just to tell you what is and what is not cool!
# *Guest* Frez : Obviously some of us have no choice considering where I live. Incidentally you were here in Dubai recently...what did you think?
# M Shinn : Hi Max,
# M Shinn : I would love to run more clinics but time is tight!
# *Guest* Redha : Hey Mark, it's Redha from Dubai. Can't wait to finally get some kiting done in Egypt!
# M Shinn : I think I will try to run some short courses from the centre in Tenerife later in the year
# *Guest* MistralWind : Is the idea of adding a new dedicated wave board around your mind? Im sure we would all like to see some great innovation on the whole wavekitesurfing side of the sport..Im sure nobile can bring that!
# *Guest* sniper : what for double de power naish sistem
# *Guest* laz : do you think that more kids will get into kiting or that it will stay as an over 18 majority
# M Shinn : Hey Redha, sorry I missed you when I was in Dubai last month
# James Bond : how do u rate the cab switchblade 2
# kiril : for beginers Bow or C-kite?
# M Shinn : Laz....
# M Shinn : I hope that more and more kidswill get into kiting but it is not a cheap sport;......
# *Guest* lex : he mark, i'm a kid from the netherlands that is kitesurfing:D
# M Shinn : The switchblade 2 is very very nice, comfortable anbd easy..... I think most riders would be very happy with it
# Toby : how old lex?
# *Guest* lex : i am 15
# M Shinn : krill
# *Guest* Max from Holland : Can you let me know when? Would be nice to learn some new stuff from you. Keep me posted, hang loose, have to stop now Adios
# *Guest* lex : sorry for my poor english
# M Shinn : Bow all the way........... the safety concerns outweigh all other options
# *Guest* laz : i am too i worked all summer and then spent every penny i earned and got a kite any kid can kite if he can save
# M Shinn : Ciao MAx, keep checking the SHinn Centre website for clinic details
# *Guest* laz : th lessons and boards were the expensive part
# *Guest* lex : i work also al the vacations for kiteboarding
# James Bond : are u doing any kite clinics this year?
# M Shinn : I have 2 clinics in Egypt in June but they are bnooked out.
# Toby : Laz: I think so too. Specially on Ebay you get so cheap used gear...sometimes it looks like buying ski gear is more expensive!
# M Shinn : I am planning some clinics in Tenerife but the details are not ready yet!
# *Guest* Redha : No worries, sorry I missed you myself. Just wanted to say a quick hello, hope to see you soon, i'm actually planning on going to Hurghada in the next couple of weeks and teach at Colona. Can't get enough of the 666, can't wait to see what's coming next! You truly are an inspiration and living-legend to this sport!
# Toby : Mark, can everyone come to your Shinn center on Tenerife and test the gear? For free?
# M Shinn : Thanks Redha, you made me blush
# *Guest* flying dutchman : I was 14 when I started (also dutch) and just spend all my money an d all my birthday/christmas presents on kitesurfing and I took a job and spend all that money on kitesurfing too, not easy, but it is possible
# M Shinn : Anyone can come but it's not free!
# *Guest* guest R@bert frm Holland : same hear for the 555...what a magnificent board
# *Guest* lex : ik ook flyingdutchman
# RobMobius : There has been alot of debate over thrusters vs quad fins for wave boards, your thoughts?
# M Shinn : The iondustry does not support the centre yet and it is not too cheap to have 50 kites ofr test.
# *Guest* laz : ever thought of having under 18 only competitions
# *Guest* Bram : Hi Mark have you tested the Ion 2 yet?
# Toby : sure, that's fine. It costs more buying somethin which is ok, rather than something that is better after it...
# M Shinn : There is a cost to rent but you can change and test as many different kites and boards as you like during your stay
# M Shinn : With the speed kites lose money buying the right one is more important then ever!
# Toby : how much for a week?
# M Shinn : Ion 2 not yhet..... hopefully this week
# M Shinn : Re 3 or 4 fins
# M Shinn : I have tried and I don't know.
# M Shinn : Right now I like 3 more but after 20 years surfing it is a little normal.
# *Guest* Max from Holland : what's the exact url for the SHinn Centre website? I will regalurly visit next coming weeks
# *Guest* lex : well mark, i hope i get a lot of money this summer, so i can buy a nobile board ! You don't hear any bad about them, only good stuff!. I have to make my homework now, keep up the good work and it was an honour to chat with you
# M Shinn : All the four fin boards I tried have a tonne of grip in the turn but are too sliddy and skatey off the lip for me
# *Guest* Martijn holland : Hi Mark, waht is the difference between a Naish Thorn 07 and the new Nobile 666?
# *Guest* Chris : Hi Mark it's Chris, i'm a friend of Ian's and Redha's out in Dubai. If Ian ever talks to you about me then you'll know me as kiteboy! I also MIGHT be headed to Egypty to instruct but i just wanted to ask you have you got any tips for boosting your mentality in the sport? I'm tempted to go out and try new tricks but i worry about getting it perfect or landing all the time!:$
# M Shinn : http://www.theshinncentre.com
# *Guest* Max from Holland : Thanx, we keep in touch, Ciao
# *Guest* MistralWind : wave boards - wave boards! nobile can surely bring innovation in the surfing side of kitesurfing whats on your mind?
# M Shinn : lex.... no bnrand is perfect but as long as we keep improving I will be ahppy
# M Shinn : Martijn
# M Shinn : These are two different baords......
# M Shinn : different rocker, outline, flex, weight, core build up etcetcetc
# *Guest* Martijn holland : The Thorn = more freestyle, more pop, and the 666 = more allround, better in choppy conditions?
# M Shinn : Chris, the only solution is to grow a thick skin!
# *Guest* Shinn rider : Talking of wave boards.... would a wave TT actually work with the Nobile construction?
# *Guest* laz : do yout hink a boards weight realy affects performance very much? or is it a mental thing like if you think its lighter you can jump better??
# M Shinn : Go out and have fun, if you swim on every trick for a week who cares? At the end of it you will have acheived something!
# Capi : What board is this one: Shinn Wave Twin tips
# Capi : ?
# *Guest* Chris : It's thick already, i think i need a pair of solid titanium balls
# M Shinn : slow down a little guys
# M Shinn : Mistral wind...... keep your eyes open
# *Guest* Chris : Looking forward to meeting you in Egypt dude! Ta
# *Guest* Martijn holland : Where are you now, Shinn?
# M Shinn : Martijn, I have not tested the Thorn so I can't say but I think the 666 propbaly has a higher performance
# *Guest* MistralWind : hehe nice tease. they are open!
# Toby : he is in Tenerife
# M Shinn : Shinn rider..... I think so yes
# M Shinn : Laz, to some extent yes it makes a difference but not as much a most people think!
# Toby : do you also have other boards to test at the shinn center?
# *Guest* Martijn holland : Waht is the difference between a 555 and 666 07?
# M Shinn : Martijn I am in Tenerife
# *Guest* Shinn rider : but surely a wave TT would be better with a rounded "Surf" rail? No?
# M Shinn : At this point Toby only Nobile, Shinn and NBL boards
# M Shinn : maybe other brands in the future
# *Guest* Shinn rider : Don't get me wrong, love the boards, and the construction seems to be leading the way forward.
# *Guest* Martijn holland : Cool, it's probably better then here in the nehterlands
# Capi : ???? Are you planning to come to portugal this year?????
# M Shinn : Martijn, I can't explain in this time....take a look at http://www.nobileboardtour.com
# *Guest* Frez : Your thoughts on speed kiting? Can meaningful data useful for regular boards be obtained from this aspect of the sport? And is the ultimate goal of a kiteboarder taking the sailing speed record achievable in your opinion?
# M Shinn : Shinn rider, not neccesarily, a twin in wave is differnt to a surf baord
# *Guest* guest_bender : Hi mark what place would be, according to you, the best place to learn kiteboarding
# *Guest* lucash : hello!
# *Guest* Shinn rider : fair enough... look forward to the 2008 Nobile Wave then...!
# M Shinn : Capi, I am not sure yet but I would like to for sure
# *Guest* Redha : There's something that's always bothered me, and seeing how much you ripped the waves in Funk, i'm really hesitant on whether i should get an actual kite-surfing surfboard with straps (the small ones), or a proper 6'6 surfboard with built-in straps? I would prefer a lot more the latter, but i'm a little worried about the rigidity of the surf-board.
# M Shinn : Yes a kite could take the record but I think we would need to find the right conditions....... really really flat water
# *Guest* MistralWind : just learn to jibe you dont need no stinking bidirectinal! (if your just focusing on waves that is)
# *Guest* sniper : come to bulgaria
# *Guest* lucash : does anybody knows how the kiting in Greece, Rhodos is? i ant to go on vacaion there
# M Shinn : I think Egypt is a pretty nice place to learn but anywhere can be good if there is wind and a big beach
# M Shinn : Redha, normal surfboards have a short life span kiting..... Surftech boards last longer but not forever!
# *Guest* bender : what would be according to you the most memorable thing about kiteboarding for you
# *Guest* lucash : :p
# Capi : Well time to go
# *Guest* laz : have you ever tried a zero gravity board? what makes them go so well in the chop? have you ever thought of making a similer board but maybe a little "looser"
# M Shinn : Mistral wind......... you can enjoy waves in a lot of different ways
# Capi : MARK.... You HUGE!!! GREATEST RIDER!!!!
# Capi : Hhave fun!
# *Guest* Larry : like a bulgarian beach
# M Shinn : Bender.... the chance to travel the world for so many years and meet so many people I would not have met before
# Toby : stop talking about joints here, it all gets deleted, thx
# *Guest* lucash : but does anybody know how the kiting in Rhodos is?
# *Guest* Oi : don't mix.
# *Guest* bender : I'll drink to that mark!
# M Shinn : Laz .... no I never have tried one
# *Guest* Larry : only white widow
# M Shinn : Guys, I don't smoke and I don't think now is the time to discuss it anyway!
# *Guest* lucash : me 2
# *Guest* blacktip : still riding xbow?
# M Shinn : If you have more serious questions go for it
# Toby : Mark, do you consider making kites as well? Or will you concentrate on boards only
# M Shinn : Black tip..... sometimes yes
# *Guest* Bandini : ei man, whats your opinion for freestyle with raven, not torch?
# M Shinn : Toby...... I've considered it but right now I am not ready to do it
# *Guest* blacktip : for what conditions you use it?
# *Guest* Martijn holland : Do you have a normal job, or just making boards and kitng kiting kitng?
# M Shinn : Martijn,
# *Guest* Shinn rider : Mark, what's in your CD player right now?
# M Shinn : You don't consider running a multi national kite board brand as a normal job?
# *Guest* DieCool :
# *Guest* guest_1269 : I see you offer people a lot of different choices in kites at your centre, what is your favorite kite, and why?
# M Shinn : I spend plenty enough time in my office!
# *Guest* Andrzeij : do you think the people take you serious not riding for a kite-brand??
# *Guest* lucash : that sucks
# *Guest* lucash : i hate offices
# M Shinn : I was listening to Muse just now
# *Guest* bender : in all these years you have been kiteboarding, what would you like to experience again if you had to choose
# *Guest* Bandini : do you think raven is good for freestyle?
# *Guest* Martijn holland : Map of Problematique is a cool song
# *Guest* Frez : Is there any kite and/or board that has stood out for you as being transformational for the sport?
# M Shinn : I don't have a favourite kite in the centre but I use the ATOM when traveling as it does so many things so well
# *Guest* Larry : what kind of musik
# M Shinn : Why would people not take me seriously for chosing not to have a sponsor?
# *Guest* Bram : Mark can you tell me if there is a big difference ebtween the two flexifoil boards (freestyle and the free ride version)and the 555 or 666
# *Guest* laz : ever thought of makign a flodable board for travel
# M Shinn : Hey slow up a little!
# *Guest* laz : foldable
# M Shinn : bender......... I would liike to ride hookipa again!
# M Shinn : Raven is good for freestlye but loops a little slow
# *Guest* turbojerre : are you considering kiteing at Teahupoo or some mayor swell sometime and capture it on cam love to see that..
# M Shinn : The bow revolution changed the sport, like it or not!
# M Shinn : I have not tested the Flexi boards sorry
# *Guest* lucash : i only kite with bowkites i'm loving it
# *Guest* Maurice(NL) : Hiya Shinn, any tips on riding 666 06 better in choppy water?
# *Guest* DieCool : have you ever kited in Kenya?
# M Shinn : You need to tripm the kite carefully and then makes sure it is in the right area of the window..... this is why I prefer short lines in waves
# M Shinn : Laz, yes but it messes up the flex too much
# *Guest* guest_stanley : are the bows the future fot the sport or do you think the c-shape will always be there
# *Guest* lucash : yeah thats for sure
# M Shinn : I have some wave plans for this summer but until it happens you never know what you will get!
# *Guest* Andrzeij : but you go for boards...so why no kitesponsor?
# *Guest* lucash : i like them both
# *Guest* Andrzeij : kinda strange
# *Guest* bender : what is so great about hookipa?
# *Guest* Maurice(NL) : 'cos he's making his own kites soon i guess
# *Guest* Andrzeij : aaah
# M Shinn : Maurice, try to keep your weight centrered on the boards and try to float it over the chop not drive it though it
# *Guest* Andrzeij : togehter with flash
# *Guest* Maurice(NL) : So, surf 'on' the water, instean of carving thru it
# M Shinn : Stanley I think pure C kites will probably become more and more specialised, the 5 line flat kite looks like the way forward to me
# M Shinn : Andrzeji...... having a board brand is not really the same as havin a sponsor is it?
# *Guest* sniper : you like jenna jameson
# *Guest* lamza : how do U like torch kite?
# wjb : What changes are you working on for the 08 line of Nobile boards
# *Guest* Maurice(NL) : I love the 666 06 man, but there's a few things wrong with it..graps wear off to quickly, and the serial number is disappearing
# M Shinn : Hookipa is clean, the waves are fast and powerful and it is banned to kite there
# *Guest* bender :
# *Guest* Andrzeij : ah, okay. cool
# *Guest* Maurice(NL) : graphs*
# *Guest* guest_stanley : with 5 line flat do you mean a bow or foils
# M Shinn : WJB..... I'm afraid you will have to wait and see but the goal is always better performance in an easier to use package
# *Guest* Redha : Thanks Mark, i looked at the Surftech website. They definitely have a great collection. What do you think of a custom 6'6 fish with reinforced fiber glass on the areas where the straps will go? I'm looking to use it in 6-10 foot surf.
# *Guest* infected mushroom (NL) : New men inside!
# *Guest* Shinn rider : 5-line flat would be a hybrid...
# *Guest* Maurice(NL) : hey shroom;) hanglos
# *Guest* sniper : i like jenna ,raven & strong wind
# M Shinn : Stanley, I mean kites like the instinct or Rebel
# *Guest* infected mushroom (NL) : Hello Shinn, de new instict sport is a really good kite
# *Guest* bender : you like the rebel?
# *Guest* Frez : I'm off to bed but thanks for taking the time to answer so many questions Mark. Keep up the great work. It's clear the kiting community very much appreciates your contribution to the sport!
# *Guest* infected mushroom (NL) : yesterday i ride the 11 m on 15 meter lines
# M Shinn : Redha, I don't like fish boards as they are too wide to turn fast through chop.....
# *Guest* infected mushroom (NL) : that was amazing, a lot of pull in the loops!
# *Guest* tim(NL) : shinn my man what do you think of the 10 switchblade 2? or have you never riden it?
# M Shinn : Sorry guys can we stick to English?
# *Guest* Redha : k thanks.
# *Guest* infected mushroom (NL) : Oke, we talk in Enlgish, sorry
# *Guest* infected mushroom (NL) : but the ozone sport is a really good kite!
# M Shinn : I have one in the centre and it is a great kite, light in the bar, fast enough and good depower
# M Shinn : I should be testing the new Ozones next week I hope
# *Guest* infected mushroom (NL) : (my english is not so good yet)
# M Shinn : Probably better than my Dutch
# *Guest* tim(NL) : and what are your thoughts of the wind x ultra flat kite coming out this summer...
# *Guest* lamza : mark, how do U like new torch?
# M Shinn : I don't know anything about it yet
# *Guest* bender : mark i have to go now , thx for answerring my question and i hope me meet in a far distant future
# kiril : Mark what is your email address if we have any questions?
# M Shinn : Lamza the new torch is a very nice kite indeed if you want a freestyle kite
# *Guest* infected mushroom (NL) : sirieus, you must test the sport on 15 m lines, i have tested the 11m on 15 meter lines from lex dekker, the kite had a lot of power and pull!
# *Guest* tim(NL) : revolution dude !!! just one kite so handle it all
# M Shinn : Ronnie, I use a windsurf uphaul with modified ends
# *Guest* DieCool : how come there stil isnt a good combination for very light winds?
# *Guest* Finsj : Hi Mark, atm I use a Kiteloose Small Drug 133x37, weight 65 kg, what board you suggest for a freestyler?
# Toby : kiril...send him a private message via the kiteforum
# M Shinn : What d you mean about nothing fdor light winds?
# kiril : oki 10x Toby
# M Shinn : Finsj.... it's hard to say with no info but our freestlye pure board is the 666
# *Guest* Finsj : What size you suggest for a light person? 128?
# *Guest* DieCool : light winds means a big slow kite and a big board wich is no fun
# *Guest* infected mushroom (NL) : how long are you?
# M Shinn : Or a skimboard and small kite which is loads of fun?
# Coen : how long? dude, tthats not english:P
# *Guest* DieCool : stil lookinbg forward to testing that skimboard in zeebrugge
# *Guest* Maurice(NL) : Mr. Shinn, You think if I trade in my 666 06 for a 555 07 it wil lbe better in chop and small waves, im 6Foot1(183CM) and 65g
# *Guest* tim(NL) : how is your life as a fulltime kiter...? id LUUUVVVV to do that if i could
# M Shinn : Maurice, I suggest you test one as it does not matter so m?uch what I think, it's what you notice whedn you test it
# M Shinn : Tim, I was full time kiting some years ago but now I have alot to do working with Nobile!
# *Guest* Maurice(NL) : Hm, thats not always that easy, I'll guess ill find someone who uses the 555 07, and borrow it for a short test. Thx
# *Guest* lamza : shinn I heard that u drove x1 sle 3m in 37 knots
# M Shinn : But if you have the dream then go for it
# *Guest* lamza : is it true?
# M Shinn : Lamza.... not true!
# *Guest* tim(NL) : i have one very important question for you: why is the board called 666 ?
# M Shinn : In 387 knots I normally ride a 7m Atom on 20m lines
# M Shinn : Tim..... its the price!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
# *Guest* Maurice(NL) : No, because it is tested in Hell, a town in Poland
# M Shinn : 555 is 555 euro and 666 is 666 euro
# *Guest* lamza : 387!!! hehe
# *Guest* Shinn rider : 387 knots???!!! You da man!
# *Guest* tim(NL) : i know but thats not the reasl reason is it?
# *Guest* Redha : at those speeds, i'd recommed a fighter-jet!
# M Shinn : Why not, you never figured it out!
# M Shinn : OK guuys I think thats it for tonight!
# *Guest* Maurice(NL) : Thx Shinn, goodluck!
# *Guest* lamza : thx shinn
# Toby : ok, thx Mark!
# *Guest* Shinn rider : thanks Mark, you're a legend.....
# Toby : I will post a copy of the chat in the forum!
# *Guest* Redha : Thanks Mark for everything, looking forward to Egypt! Keep livin' the dream dude!
# kiril : Bye MArk
# Toby : thx for stopping buy and typing so fast! Great job and good luck with Nobiel andd your new Shinn Center in Tenerife!
# kiril : have a nice night!
# M Shinn : Take it easy guys, if you have a serious question you can PM me!
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