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Balloonboy
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Post subject: Re: Renegade "Infinity V2" light wind machine. Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 4:04 am |
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davesails7 wrote: Balloonboy wrote: Its hard to know for sure but I would estimate I went out in 8-10 kts on a surfboard with the V2 and pretty lit. Fully powered with no depower. The wind quickly died to 6-8 kts. The whitecaps (without big current are purported to start at 8 kts) had all but disappeared. I had to wait for a gust of 8 to get going again- not enough otherwise. 8 knots for whitecaps? I know the exact wind speed for whitecaps depends on water depth and fetch (distance upwind for the waves to develop), but if there are whitecaps, that's 12-13 knots not 8! This is from the Beaufort scale definition: BN 3 signifies winds of eight to 12 mph. This is a gentle breeze, creating small whitecaps on the ocean water. The wind is now strong enough to extend flags. And this from the Office Of Naval Research: Beaufort 3 7-10kts Gentle Breeze Large wavelets, crests begin to break and whitecaps are scattered whitecaps.
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tony montana
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Post subject: Re: Renegade "Infinity V2" light wind machine. Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 9:26 pm |
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davesails7 wrote: Balloonboy wrote: Its hard to know for sure but I would estimate I went out in 8-10 kts on a surfboard with the V2 and pretty lit. Fully powered with no depower. The wind quickly died to 6-8 kts. The whitecaps (without big current are purported to start at 8 kts) had all but disappeared. I had to wait for a gust of 8 to get going again- not enough otherwise. 8 knots for whitecaps? I know the exact wind speed for whitecaps depends on water depth and fetch (distance upwind for the waves to develop), but if there are whitecaps, that's 12-13 knots not 8! Spot on 12-13 white caps, any good 14 some 12s will get you wave riding in this wind range.Tony
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davesails7
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Post subject: Re: Renegade "Infinity V2" light wind machine. Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 1:59 am |
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Balloonboy wrote: This is from the Beaufort scale definition:
BN 3 signifies winds of eight to 12 mph. This is a gentle breeze, creating small whitecaps on the ocean water. The wind is now strong enough to extend flags.
And this from the Office Of Naval Research:
Beaufort 3 7-10kts Gentle Breeze Large wavelets, crests begin to break and whitecaps are scattered whitecaps. Wow, that is what the Beaufort scale says, but just doesn't seem right. I've never seen a whitecap at 8 knots, maybe at the top of that range, 10 knots, you could see a whitecap or two, but even that's tough to believe. I guess it depends on location? Either that or I've been riding in a lot less wind than I thought 
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Balloonboy
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Post subject: Re: Renegade "Infinity V2" light wind machine. Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 2:53 am |
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Remember they START at 8kts . When they are hard to see or just barely there it's prob 8 or just over or under. If numerous WCs refer to the rest of the B-scale. Reliable and somewhat objective description of wind strength- since 1805 no less: http://www.spc.noaa.gov/faq/tornado/beaufort.html
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SupaEZ
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Post subject: Re: Renegade "Infinity V2" light wind machine. Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 2:22 pm |
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[quote="Dimitri M"]People having fun on the Infinity in 7 to 12 knots [quote] Epic decals on gas pumps.....prices are likely to go up 7 to 12 cents per gallon soon 
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SupaEZ
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Post subject: Re: Renegade "Infinity V2" light wind machine. Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 2:32 pm |
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The average between 7 and 12 is 9.5 So the average people can START having fun at 9.5 knots is really what you mean YOU are not average...you are WAY above average YOU enjoy working the kite up and down in 7-8kn to generate momentum The average person can't do that effectively....or does not enjoy doing that 
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Balloonboy
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Post subject: Re: Renegade "Infinity V2" light wind machine. Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 5:08 pm |
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Btw- sining the V2 has minimal effect from my experience so when I say going in min 8kts that's parked. Some kites need sauce. The Epics seem to make their own.
But don't take my word for it- try the V2 in 8-10kts and make up your own mind. Unless you weigh 400 lbs and/or riding a toothpick I'll bet you lunch that you are riding comfortably and maybe- just maybe- having fun.
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Dimitri M
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Post subject: Re: Renegade "Infinity V2" light wind machine. Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 5:29 pm |
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Well said Balloonboy, This is why I am doing so many demos and I am willing to send them world wide so people can test them because the kite talk for itself once you get your hands on and get a chance to get on the water. Once you try it you will be very impressed. But again you need to be less then 400 lbs or else you will need more wind to have fun. P.S. Once again we sold out of them and should get more in 8 days.
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