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SalmonSlayer
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Post subject: Re: Any kites that don't use one-pump? Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 6:33 am |
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[quote="Pump me up" Crew who ride in sandy areas (e.g. beaches) tend to like one-pump whereas crew who ride where there are a lot of sharp rocks, shells, sticks, weeds, etc, tend to prefer multiple pump[/quote]
Yep
I converted my '08 Best Nemesis HP from a one pump to a multi pump. Unnecessary parts cause unnecessary down time.
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tautologies
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Post subject: Re: Any kites that don't use one-pump? Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:13 am |
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SalmonSlayer wrote: Yep
I converted my '08 Best Nemesis HP from a one pump to a multi pump. Unnecessary parts cause unnecessary down time.
Do you see any irony in this statement? 
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Peter_Frank
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Post subject: Re: Any kites that don't use one-pump? Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:15 am |
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jkrug wrote: the debate can never be resolved. it's merely subjective. but i wouldn't say most people have them so that's why most companies make them. i think it's the other way around; most companies make them, and that's why most people have them. i think if all companies offered both options, many more kiters would opt for multi-pump systems.
when one pump first came out, everyone was like 'cool!'. but now that we know the pros and cons, i think there's a different attitude. personally, i won't buy another kite with one pump, and so that limits the brands i can consider. I still think it is only a minority that dont want one-pump. And of course these will "fight" the hardest for multipump, so will appear as a BIG group in a thread like this. As I might have said before - I have not really met anyone around who dont want it, so a very small number. But I've met many who deliberately has been pissed because a certain kite they fell in love with did NOT have onepump - so they chose another kite/brand because of this  So a deal breaker the other way around too, for some For many it is more than just "nice to have", onepump A bit off the topic though - as I would just state what the balance seems to be between onepump and multipump demands. As the real topic issue is "which kites dont use one-pump ?" - and should be adressed so it is possible to choose these kites  Peter
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jkrug
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Post subject: Re: Any kites that don't use one-pump? Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:23 pm |
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Peter_Frank wrote: I still think it is only a minority that dont want one-pump. And of course these will "fight" the hardest for multipump, so will appear as a BIG group in a thread like this. i agree it's a minoirty that don't want one pump. but most folks just take what they're offered, and what they're mostly offered is one pump. and my bet is if i never had to replace an LE bladder, i'd prefer one pump too. but unfortunately, i've had to several times, and it ain't fun with one pump. Peter_Frank wrote: As I might have said before - I have not really met anyone around who dont want it, so a very small number. kind of an odd statement. i haven't MET any porn stars, but i know they're out there. Peter_Frank wrote: But I've met many who deliberately has been pissed because a certain kite they fell in love with did NOT have onepump - ... So a deal breaker the other way around too, for some no doubt true. Peter_Frank wrote: As the real topic issue is "which kites dont use one-pump ?" - and should be adressed so it is possible to choose these kites there are so few of them, i think that specific topic has already been fully addressed.
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SalmonSlayer
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Post subject: Re: Any kites that don't use one-pump? Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:54 pm |
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tautologies wrote: SalmonSlayer wrote: Yep
I converted my '08 Best Nemesis HP from a one pump to a multi pump. Unnecessary parts cause unnecessary down time.
Do you see any irony in this statement?  I saw it, but, the following names are not recognized by kiters even though they are more appropriate. Net reduction of parts pump Simplicity pump KISS pump
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kids
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Post subject: Re: Any kites that don't use one-pump? Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:24 pm |
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yeah.. switch nitro 16R Toby wrote: Flysurfer  yes, Dyno 2011 and 2012. Does any light wind race kite have one pump?
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john a
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Post subject: Re: Any kites that don't use one-pump? Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:09 pm |
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I don´t like one-pump eighter... would buy everything with single-pump if I could... The Kahoona still comes as a single pump option luckily 
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jkrug
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Post subject: Re: Any kites that don't use one-pump? Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:30 pm |
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john a wrote: I don´t like one-pump eighter... would buy everything with single-pump if I could... The Kahoona still comes as a single pump option luckily  what's the difference between one pump and single pump?
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Flyboy
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Post subject: Re: Any kites that don't use one-pump? Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 4:10 am |
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Put me down as a one-pump hater. I don't see the point. If you're leaving a multi-inflation kite with the struts inflated, it takes no extra time to inflate. If pumping struts & LE, maybe a couple of extra minutes. Completely DE-flating my one pump takes more than an extra couple of minutes. The extra valves & bits 'n' pieces add a little weight, complexity, more things to potentially fail & whole lot more hassle to fix.
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lbatbeach
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Post subject: Re: Any kites that don't use one-pump? Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 12:02 pm |
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Another vote for no one pump. If you live in a tropical environment, valve delams are a fact of life on most kites over a year old. So until they get that fixed, I would prefer no one pump!
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