I am looking at buying some 2011 havocs and can't seem to find too much in terms of reviews on this kite. Who has ridden them and what is the general thoughts on these kites (good or bad)? I have owned wainman's (I thought that they are great kites), Kahoona's (not a big fan), Hifi's (nice kite), Waroo (still one of my favorites), and Eclipse kites (okay kites). I am looking for a good freeride kite that will do it all. I have considered the envy but it is a great deal on these kites. I have also considered buying rebels as well so any input would be great.
Demoing is unfortunately not an option so it is the good ole fashion inquire and than buy before you try scenario for me.