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 Post subject: Spin able spreader bar - anyone tried?
PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 8:32 am 
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Anyone tried this spin able spreaderbar? Does it work?

http://liquidforcekites.com/introducing ... -bar-hook/


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 Post subject: Re: Spin able spreader bar - anyone tried?
PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 12:59 pm 
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WildDuke wrote:
Anyone tried this spin able spreaderbar? Does it work?

http://liquidforcekites.com/introducing ... -bar-hook/




So you have unlock it before you spin it, then lock it again....mmmm


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 Post subject: Re: Spin able spreader bar - anyone tried?
PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 2:22 pm 
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wouldn't your leash get wrapped around the chickenloop/safety release etc...

doesn't a manual swivel above the safety release do the same thing? Actually better if your flag out line goes through the middle of it, then your leash would not get wrapped around the chickenloop....


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 Post subject: Re: Spin able spreader bar - anyone tried?
PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 4:46 pm 
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IMO the function of the CORE Sensor (or ESP) bar is much better and works great for me. The lines unspin automatically when you pull down on the bar after a rotation or kite loop - no leash tangling, no depower line tangling, no fifth line tangling.

just an fyi: The only downside I can think of is that the 2 center/depower lines going thru the bar need to be replaced periodically but it's worth it. I think I can r&r the lines myself for around $15. If you wax the dyneema regularly the lines will last longer (50+ sessions?).


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 Post subject: Re: Spin able spreader bar - anyone tried?
PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 10:48 pm 
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LF never brought the spin'able spreader bar hook to market. They had some issues that they could not resolve on the design. The LF CPR control bar for 2013 is now coming equipped with a "working" molded swivel, so there's no need for a spinning hook. :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: Spin able spreader bar - anyone tried?
PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:04 pm 
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robertovillate wrote:
IMO the function of the CORE Sensor (or ESP) bar is much better and works great for me. The lines unspin automatically when you pull down on the bar after a rotation or kite loop - no leash tangling, no depower line tangling, no fifth line tangling.

just an fyi: The only downside I can think of is that the 2 center/depower lines going thru the bar need to be replaced periodically but it's worth it. I think I can r&r the lines myself for around $15. If you wax the dyneema regularly the lines will last longer (50+ sessions?).


Hey Roberto, I cannot seem to find a video that shows how the release end of the chickenloop is attached to the release... Do you have a picture of that? Otherwise it looks pretty nice!


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 Post subject: Re: Spin able spreader bar - anyone tried?
PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:23 am 
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Laughingman wrote:
robertovillate wrote:
IMO the function of the CORE Sensor (or ESP) bar is much better and works great for me. The lines unspin automatically when you pull down on the bar after a rotation or kite loop - no leash tangling, no depower line tangling, no fifth line tangling.

just an fyi: The only downside I can think of is that the 2 center/depower lines going thru the bar need to be replaced periodically but it's worth it. I think I can r&r the lines myself for around $15. If you wax the dyneema regularly the lines will last longer (50+ sessions?).


Hey Roberto, I cannot seem to find a video that shows how the release end of the chickenloop is attached to the release... Do you have a picture of that? Otherwise it looks pretty nice!


It's a simple hinged short pin that feeds into an eye spliced into the end of the chickenloop. The material they cover the loop with is very stiff and springs open when released. It's a new take on an old idea.

Drawings showing it's function and reassembly can be found on pages 8 and 9 of it's manual.
http://corekites.com/sites/default/files/manuals/CORE_Sensor_Handbuch_Manual.pdf

The bar is very light, clean, and simple. Both the swivel feature and release work very well even in my powder fine sand. The trim cleat is easy to use too.


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 Post subject: Re: Spin able spreader bar - anyone tried?
PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 1:49 am 
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zerogee_ca wrote:
Laughingman wrote:
robertovillate wrote:
IMO the function of the CORE Sensor (or ESP) bar is much better and works great for me. The lines unspin automatically when you pull down on the bar after a rotation or kite loop - no leash tangling, no depower line tangling, no fifth line tangling.

just an fyi: The only downside I can think of is that the 2 center/depower lines going thru the bar need to be replaced periodically but it's worth it. I think I can r&r the lines myself for around $15. If you wax the dyneema regularly the lines will last longer (50+ sessions?).


Hey Roberto, I cannot seem to find a video that shows how the release end of the chickenloop is attached to the release... Do you have a picture of that? Otherwise it looks pretty nice!


It's a simple hinged short pin that feeds into an eye spliced into the end of the chickenloop. The material they cover the loop with is very stiff and springs open when released. It's a new take on an old idea.

Drawings showing it's function and reassembly can be found on pages 8 and 9 of it's manual.
http://corekites.com/sites/default/files/manuals/CORE_Sensor_Handbuch_Manual.pdf

The bar is very light, clean, and simple. Both the swivel feature and release work very well even in my powder fine sand. The trim cleat is easy to use too.



Does the "pro" stopper work? I've found that the only stopper balls that actually hold the pull of the bar are ones that go through at least two front lines. Is this different for the new core bar?


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