any link of europian second hand sites would be really appreciated,
am i the only one that its not interested at kite graphics ,colors, kitebags,one pump system or leash included ? how far could the absence of the above could drop a new kites price?

Best takes $100 off the price of the kite if you get it without a pump or a bag.

Even without pump or bag though, over $1000 for a kite seems insane to me so I buy used and leftover kites only.

Almost Every kite i own , was purchased used .
I bought my 2010 Edge in 2011 ; a one year old kite in the $500 range, and
it didn't have any damage what-so-ever !! That price is less than 1/3 of it's
original value and i'll probably get another 2 or three years out of it if i fold it
up instead of letting it rot in the sun on the beach, when the wind is too light to use it.

Lots of people want New gear every year, and i don't mind the used stuff. I also save
a Lot of money by making my own boards.

I could afford New kite-gear, if most of my money didn't go for hang gliding trips
around the country. For me -- i kinda "Need" both sports". Lucky the HG is made
of carbon with a D-Tube instead of tubes, so i can fix the dings when needed.
I use my sewing machine the moment i see a bad spot on both kites & HG's.

My Toyota Sienna was purchased used with only 30K miles on it, got it for near1/2
price also. My HG was $10K new and i got it for 3K , and just a few years old.

Basically -- i would have to work a LOT more than i do if i got all my stuff New ; and
most my toys are still in Really Good shape !!! Even my Gas XL, RC Helli was
bought used, as was my T-Rex 450 ; they both fly Great !!

Going through all my stuff --- the only thing i see that was purchased New are
my Rossignol snow skis and bindings ; can't hardly wait for ski season to start !

Bille

www.oase.com would be best.
Or German Ebay.

http://www.flysurf.com/petites-annonces ... surf-1.htm


And a very nice thing on Flysurf is that you can by 2nd hand gear the way they call it " 100% garantie".
It means that you can pay the kite-boards... by bank transfert, visa, paypal... directly to the shop, then the guy send the kite and once you receive it, you say to flysurf that everything is ok and then the shop pay the guy!!!
Best way to buy second hand gear! even if the gear you want is not 100% garantie you can ask the seller to do it and share the 100% garantie fee.

I just bought 2 kites this way few weeks ago and it works perfectly!!

9αρι επικ σκριμερ του 2010 κομπλε με 600 και 12αρι με 650ευρω ειναι καλα?κορυφαια ποιοτητα και πεταγμα ... ρωτα οποιους εχουν....

I know that switch was mentioned in an earlier comment and just wanna say for the record im not a team rider or affiliated with them in anyway, but i believe with the kites i have got from them that your not going to beat the bang for your buck with any other kite company out there at this moment. They are priced lower than most used kites on the forums and the build quality is awesome. Right now they are offering 25% off of theyre already low priced kites on the Method and Combats. I believe you can pik up a 12m method for close too 500 bucks brand new shipping included!! My 2 cent

cheers
Shaun