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 Post subject: Re: The new Uni Control Bar by Blade
PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 2:06 am 
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Motion wrote:
yoav_at_blade wrote:
faklord wrote:
Hi
I'm surprised by Jinx's comment that the safety attaches to only one of the front lines (which I think it's the safest option)
How can it do this thro the swivel?

It looks to me like it goes to both front lines. Please can you confirm?

Thanks



Hello.

Jinx's comment is correct. The safety attaches to only one of the center lines, going all the way through the swivel and to the bridle. The second center line attaches directly to the swivel. When depowering the kite, the safety line will have some slack extending from below the QR, but it's not an issue since it just becomes an extension of your leash. This method is convenient for the main reason of not having loose lines above the bar.

In terms of line strengths. Each of the center lines support 400 lbs. and each of the flying lines support 250 lbs.

Yoav


So it will not have the same double suicide mode as current /last generation bar?

How is the suicide mode than done on the new bar?


The so called "double suicide" mode that you mention is o.k, but it has too many issues so most of the advanced riders that I know prefer the traditional way.
If you really insist to use it just attached your leash together with the chicken loop and safty ring. It will provide you the exact same effect like someone wrote before.


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 Post subject: Re: The new Uni Control Bar by Blade
PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 6:41 am 
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When depowering the kite, the safety line will have some slack extending from below the QR, but it's not an issue since it just becomes an extension of your leash. This method is convenient for the main reason of not having loose lines above the bar.


Nice! Now I really like this bar.

Maybe I missed the answer somewhere, but can the bar travel be adjusted while riding or do you have to come in to adjust it?


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 Post subject: Re: The new Uni Control Bar by Blade
PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 9:46 am 
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ChristoffM wrote:
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Maybe I missed the answer somewhere, but can the bar travel be adjusted while riding or do you have to come in to adjust it?


You need to adjust it on the beach where there is no load on the lines.

Yoav thanks for the explanation. Looking forward to test the new bar.


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 Post subject: Re: The new Uni Control Bar by Blade
PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 10:08 am 
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machista87 wrote:
Motion wrote:
yoav_at_blade wrote:

Hello.

Jinx's comment is correct. The safety attaches to only one of the center lines, going all the way through the swivel and to the bridle. The second center line attaches directly to the swivel. When depowering the kite, the safety line will have some slack extending from below the QR, but it's not an issue since it just becomes an extension of your leash. This method is convenient for the main reason of not having loose lines above the bar.

In terms of line strengths. Each of the center lines support 400 lbs. and each of the flying lines support 250 lbs.

Yoav


So it will not have the same double suicide mode as current /last generation bar?

How is the suicide mode than done on the new bar?


The so called "double suicide" mode that you mention is o.k, but it has too many issues so most of the advanced riders that I know prefer the traditional way.
If you really insist to use it just attached your leash together with the chicken loop and safety ring. It will provide you the exact same effect like someone wrote before.


It is not really a problem i can always make my own double ring but i thought that the system was very neat. You had suicide mode for unhooking but you ware still able to flag the kite if necessarily, with out reattaching the leash to different point. Every one i showed the system like it a lot, And a couple of other brands went to this system lately.


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 Post subject: Re: The new Uni Control Bar by Blade
PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 10:42 am 
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Hey Motion

I must admit I was one of those fans of this system, but since I figure out the problem of it I stoped using it.
The thing is that its work great untill you pulling your depower, than the safty ring can go down only untill the bottom of the chicken loop, whats cause a slack on the safty line wich isnt safe for your fingers (especially on handle passes).


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 Post subject: Re: The new Uni Control Bar by Blade
PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 1:21 pm 
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faklord wrote:
Yoav,
Thanks for the explanation.
I have the previous blade bar, and find the safety line wears pretty quick where it goes thro the bar and has to be replaced fairly regular. Not a great problem, as the consequence of it snapping (which it has done once) is just loss of safety (or loss of kite if you have fired the quick release)
With the new system, if the safety snapped where it goes through the bar, do you loose a front line?...if so, not so good.

Regards
Dave



Hello Dave.

Just like the old system, you do not loose a front line if the safety line snaps. That is because there is a stopper knot right before the line leaves the swivel. This will be much more clear once you see the system up close.

Regarding Laughingman's comment, thanks for pointing that out. I made a mistake. The true breaking strengths for the steering lines and center lines are 310 kg and 400 kg, respectively.

Good day.
Yoav


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 Post subject: Re: The new Uni Control Bar by Blade
PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 9:42 pm 
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I ordered two 2013 bars and I'm still waiting for it.
I'm really happy with the my new 2013 Prime quiver (7,9,11), the kite goes so well in each size. Really a good kite, I'm stocked.
I noticed that it just need a little more air pressure than 2012 model.
I'm looking for the bigger chicken loop model. Someone knows where I could find it ?
Cheers from France.


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 Post subject: Re: The new Uni Control Bar by Blade
PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 3:23 pm 
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Here's the first review I've seen of the bar.

http://www.iksurfmag.com/issue36/?page=137


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 Post subject: Re: The new Uni Control Bar by Blade
PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 3:46 pm 
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thanks!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=DVOc7mEuRIc

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=DVOc7mEuRIc[/youtube]


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 Post subject: Re: The new Uni Control Bar by Blade
PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 2:23 am 
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So i received the final production version of the UNI bar and the finished version is even better than the proto's, im in the middle of shooting some pics and video for you guys which will hopefully be finished over the weekend and posted up.

had a quick session on it yesterday and did everything i could to stick the swivel and even carefully sprinkled sand into it to try and jam it. the swivel works very well and passed my torture test!


Everyone else its so close now you can smell it, the wait has made this bar even sweeter than it already is!


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