i would describe torches as small for their size if u know what i mean - the 8 especially
I've had the opposite experience and find them to have good wind range considering they are C kites. The 8 is my most used kite and I use it when most others are on 9s.
Yes,correct JGTR, have in mind that I`m going back to Torches after 1Y on Parks wich have solid low end,awesome kites, but not my cup of tea.
I`m not that young anymore for trying very complicated unhhoked tricks but 2013 Torch is something special.I can jump higher even hooked in w/ it.
Believe me or not I feel Cs much more comfortable.
So, as I see it could be the 8 wich in addition is kind of tamed /as all sizes below/ according to Naish...