The 3G and 4G Screamer 10 LTD are very different kites from each other.
I preferred the 3G S10 Screamer,
...so I REALLY LOOK FORWARD to the next generation of EPIC JUDGE KITES. (do you hear me Dimitri?)
I can see why a C4 and Vegas owner would love the 3G Screamer 10LTD.
Interesting to read the last posts from James and jackster4.
I agree completely with James,
how a kite flies is my first and largest consideration, and the Epic kites are a blast to fly...for me.
But I like the way all the MoMi kites fly, it is just personal preference.
I feel the same way about Ozone kites, they just fly really well, but they are not the heaviest built kites out there, and the valves can be leaky if you are careless, it did not stop me owning one.
I think North and Ocean Rodeo make bullet proof kites, but if I don't like the way they fly, then it matters not.
I could not care less what valve is on a kite, I've had two North kites and the dump valve down on the end is stupid, and I hate the battens, but it sure would not deter me from flying a Dice if I liked the way it flies.
I love the way Wainman kites fly and the one I own does not even have one pump, does not bother me in the least.
jackster4 has decided he wants a slower kite that sits further back than his 2010 model 7 & 9 Screamers.
In my opinion, the brand that jakster4 has moved to, fly like crappy beginner kites, and I've seen more problems (safety system release and reload in deep water, canopies splitting, valves leaking) than any other kite brand, but that's just my opinion from seeing the kites in my local crew, and I guess does not reflect the worldwide consensus.
I have had fantastic customer service from Epic, Slingshot and Ocean Rodeo.
I have a buddy that had a North kite 3-4 years ago, and it had problems, he could not get the dealer or the company to respond at all.
But I also see Dan from North doing a great job responding to customers today, so clearly the experience I saw was just one case.
We have a few very vocal guys here that had problems with Epic that they could not resolve...on the other hand, most dealers and customers who deal with the company, are amazed at their responsiveness and customer service.
There are brands that I would never buy, based on my opinion of their customer service history, and a few of them are big companies, but I could maybe, just possibly, maybe have a skewed opinion that may not be entirely statistically completely accurate.
I will agree that Dimitri says too much, he is proud of his gear and works harder than 99% of other humans to bring the best gear he can to market, he is too open about telling things exactly the way he sees them, and would sometimes do well to not be so open and honest about what he feels and what he knows.
But most people who have dealt with him can easily look past this quirk, and really enjoy his massive enthusiasm.
And those that like the way his Epic kites fly, are left feeling flat with most other kites.
Enjoy what you fly and try to be positive.