Oldnbroken wrote: jackster4 has decided he wants a slower kite that sits further back than his 2010 model 7 & 9 Screamers. In my opinion, the brand that jakster4 has moved to, fly like crappy beginner kites, and I've seen more problems (safety system release and reload in deep water, canopies splitting, valves leaking) than any other kite brand, but that's just my opinion from seeing the kites in my local crew, and I guess does not reflect the worldwide consensus.
Haha crappy beginner kites. Good one
Every brand has issues and problems. No company is perfect. But for me… it’s all the hype and exaggerated statements that has pushed me away. Its all the personal emails being posted, its all the “this is the best of the best of the best” this is the “best bomb proof quality on the planet” and all the little back and forth he gets into with people on the forum -- To me it just seems like immature behavior from the owner of the company.
Dimitri M wrote:“So please take a big breath, step back, smile at your wife and do some intense research before posting things that you have no clue” .
D’s intense research => “Don't use this material use this, don't use this thread use this, don't sew it that way because it cost more money and it takes too long”
To me.... thats not intense research.
My 7m screamer leading edge tore open. My 9m screamer crashed in a gust, inverted and the lines ripped the canopy in half. The neoprene material under the foot straps on my board ripped after 2 sessions. During a launch, the safety on the bar released and sent my 14m screamer crashing and rolling into sharp grass and now the kite has so many pinholes its a lost cause -- I changed brands because I wanted a kite that wouldn't fall apart after a few sessions. I wanted a bar with a quick release that I could trust and that wouldn't randomly release leaving me in a dangerous situation.
I have flown many kite brands over the 12 years that I have been riding and I have had more problems with my Epic kites than any other brand. Maybe I just had bad luck, I don't know. But I do know that I gave all the gear a shot and in the end was personally just not happy. The screamers turn fast and boost high, yes. But for me, the quality/reliability was just not there. I am just telling the experience that I actually had using the products, compared to some people on here who haven't even flown an epic kite.
Also the second hand market for Epic gear is absolutely horrendous. I have been trying to sell my 9m and droid board for months with no luck. I will have to lower the price so much it’s almost not even worth selling.