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Re: Maui Kitebeach to be banned !

Postby jbdc » Tue Nov 19, 2013 9:38 pm

yomotha wrote:I can't make out the extent of zone C on the left side though from the pic of the sign.


I provide links to the relevant documents (with maps) in my post buried in the middle of this thread.

C Johnson also made a nice overlay of the DLNR map in his post.

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Re: Maui Kitebeach to be banned !

Postby mdksniper » Wed Nov 20, 2013 1:42 am

longwhitecloud wrote:Anyway I don't live there - just spent a bit of time there so prob don't know the full story - but think it goes like this:

I think this whole thing was because of an altercation at ka'a point behind the rocks - not the awesome slick in front of them. It's useful to land there sometimes to avoid the sometimes pretty harsh wind shadow in front of rocks with easterlies). It is not huge consequences not to ride there/land there though here at all - it is not a ridable spot - but is useful in that easterly.

I think the beaches should be called their real names by commercial entities , they could maybe use their nicknames in brackets. I don't think some of the non kiters that use this area would be too stoked to see these names being used commercially on flyers for kite lessons or whatever- just a bad PR exercise IMO.


Initially it was about people riding into that pool area. They must have gotten into an argument with one of the kiters and now they have an agenda to close the beaches to kiting. They have done this by using sending some pictures to mauinow and posting some dishonest captions and comments to their pictures. For example, they posted a picture of an "out of control kite" that was clearly a kiter landing his kite into the hands of another kiter. They do have some valid points about some unsafe people (see this idiot: ) but the few examples of dangerous kiters they do have probably don't represent the thousands of other kiters at this beach that safely launch and land everyday.

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Re: Maui Kitebeach to be banned !

Postby Kamikuza » Wed Nov 20, 2013 2:18 am

The videos are shot looking to the left of zone C, aren't they? Over the Action/Pro beaches...

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Re: Maui Kitebeach to be banned !

Postby Dave_5280 » Wed Nov 20, 2013 4:28 am

It also would be easy to stage or fake a video to create "evidence" of unsafe behavior.

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Re: Maui Kitebeach to be banned !

Postby madworld » Wed Nov 20, 2013 6:48 am

kanaha_swim_zone_150.jpg

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Re: Maui Kitebeach to be banned !

Postby flyingweasel » Wed Nov 20, 2013 3:01 pm

Haole_Built wrote:
flyingweasel wrote:
Go girl...
Would you be the kiter that has influenced the swimmers by any chance?? :roll:
Obviously after your petition went "viral" and all you obviously don`t need any help whatsoever!
"Haole Built"... is that like headless chicken? Just can`t rely on google translate these days :roll:
Why not start an e- petition or write to someone, anyone will do. How about we call hotels. You`ve made this your own, winning friends and influencing...swimmers

RSJ, concrete and planning approval. Does that cover it?
LOL
Good luck(seriously) , you will need it.
Kiters need pumping


:lol: You sound bitter, do you live in some grey clouded shitty-ass weather locale? That would explain a lot.


The answer is ...yes!! It pays well.
So answer this if you can...as asked before you climbed your high horse.
Has a formal apology been made to the swimmers?
An apology can go a long way to placate a situation. A formal apology can go even further!
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Re: Maui Kitebeach to be banned !

Postby Kamikuza » Wed Nov 20, 2013 3:04 pm

flyingweasel wrote:So answer this if you can...
Has a formal apology been made to the swimmers?
An apology can go a long way to placate a situation. A formal apology can go even further!

Someone has sat down and talked with the guy...

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Re: Maui Kitebeach to be banned !

Postby flyingweasel » Wed Nov 20, 2013 8:06 pm

That would be a no then.
If that is the case...why not?

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Re: Maui Kitebeach to be banned !

Postby balugh » Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:44 pm

I think it comes back to the fact that there is a designated swimmers zone and someone sailed into it recklessly. Why is anyone surprised by that? There's no additional ban being enforced here...only the existing rules.

I did come across this definition of watercraft by the US Coastguard that is probably relevant for this situation...

http://www.uscgboating.org/assets/1/wor ... ns/479.PDF

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Re: Maui Kitebeach to be banned !

Postby Kevin123 » Thu Nov 21, 2013 12:41 am

Hopefully there is a strong local kitesurfing organization (preferably with an attorney or two on board) with a liason to the local park district/DLNR. It would be great to hear from someone who is involved as such. @loosescrew - it sounds like you are maybe one of those people ?

Really every local kite community should be organized and prepared to prevent things like this from happening.


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