usa wrote:I flew both, the 2014 Rally and RPM in 12m. The bottom end of the rally is for sure better and you can jump higher and easier in same windspeeds. The 12m Rally is a kite that needs no turning for going early for everybody. On the other hand the RPM is more fun to me, because it´s double as fast, the kite wants to be turned to get going and feels not like a truck, more sporty. Jumping needs better technical skills with the RPM, then it gets fast up and faster down then with the Rally. Barpressure is half as with the Rally, I like that. I would say for going in waves with a 12m kite you need the RPM, the Rally is too slow turning. Another difference is that the Rally has always power on the bar, the RPM can be flown with almost no power in high winds (if you want to).
I do have the 9m also in both versions, but did have no chance to test both in same conditions. Rally 9m is a fun-machine for mega-high jumps and turning very good also for waveboards, but I think high-end will be much less as with a RPM.
Thanks for your comments, so we can think that the low end on the wind charts for the 12M Rally and 12M RPM are not necessary correct.
I had a 2014 Rally 12M and the low end was incredible and have a huge hang time but sale it because the slow turning, I have a 2014 RPM 11M, to substitute the 12M Rally, and the 11M RPM don't have the low end of the Rally 12M but for me is more fun no matter I need to move it more to generate power at the low end zone of the kite. Maybe I would change the 11M for a 12M RPM in the future.
I also have a 2014 9M rally and same as you I like it a lot, I had a 2013 RPM 10M and the 2014 Rally 9M have a similar low end and drift more than the 2013 10M rpm. On the turning speed of the 9M rally vs 10M RPM I would say that the Rally 9M have a very good turning for me they turn very similar but a Rally 9M against a 9M rpm that would be a different story.
For both kites (Rally's and RPM's) high end is not the most important for me, when wind pick up I like to change to a lower size kite. I have a 8M 2012 Rally that I love it, I think I would never sale that kite.
I would like that in the future slingshot change back Rally's to 3 strut design.
For me the 2014 RPM's looks a little bigger than 2013 RPM's of the same size.
But maybe I'm wrong.